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Did 'revoked' living willkill communicative man?
WorldNetDaily ^ | November 4, 2005 | Diana Lynne

Posted on 11/04/2005 3:24:09 AM PST by 8mmMauser

Family members are investigating what they consider to be suspicious circumstances surrounding the death of a nursing home patient at the center of a life and death tug-of-war reminiscent of the Terri Schiavo tragedy.

Seventy-nine-year-old Jimmy Chambers died in the early morning hours of Oct. 24 after the tracheotomy tubes that deliver oxygen from a ventilator to a hole in his neck became unhooked. Family members were told Chambers, a resident of the Anne Maria Rehabilitation and Nursing Center in North Augusta, S.C., apparently pulled the interlocking tubes apart.

"We're having it investigated. We're just incredulous," Chambers' daughter, Deanna Potter, told WND in reference to her siblings. "The last time I saw dad he was blowing me a kiss. I blew him one and he blew one back."

The retired dispatcher for Holland Motor Express died approximately 10 hours later. His death certificate indicates he died of "natural causes."

"Apparently, suffocation is a 'natural cause' when you're on a ventilator. We're contesting that," said Potter. "He suffocated. He didn't just pass away. He struggled and fought. And I'm just so angry."

Potter estimates it would have taken 10 to 14 minutes for her father, deprived of oxygen, to fall unconscious, and questions why the nursing home staff didn't come to his aid.

"The oxygen-saturation meter and his ventilator both would have had alarms going off. Four-thirty, five o'clock in the morning you'd think someone would hear this," she added. "That's the thing that really bothers me and makes me suspicious."

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To: Theodore R.
"The late popular (particularly among the poor) Huey Pierce Long, Jr., D-LA, answered that questions in the early 1930's. The self-proclaimed "Kingfish" (himself a very wealthy man) said that the day would could in which the American people would also embrace fascism, as had Italy, Germany, and other countries. But in the USA, the Kingfish said the Americans would call their system "anti-fascism.""

Long is saying something similar to what Lenin said - that America would accept socialism if it's called something else. They're both being proved right. When fascism comes it might be called anti-fascism, but might equally well be called "emergency". "loyalty to our leaders", "defending freedom", etc. Anything that sounds good, just as long as it isn't called what it is. We could go as fascist as Der Fuhrer and most people wouldn't see it - as long as we don't call it that.
1,341 posted on 12/27/2005 6:00:45 PM PST by Wampus SC (Enjoying the Christmas truce.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
"Oh wait, do Florida's cemetaries turn out for elections?"

Could swelling the voter rolls be why euthanasia is so popular there? Seems that just rigging elections would be easier, cheaper and more efficient.
1,342 posted on 12/27/2005 6:04:41 PM PST by Wampus SC (Enjoying the Christmas truce.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
"Feudal, futile, what's the difference anyway?"

It's not futile until the would-be feudal lords convince all the peasants that resistance is futile. Hasn't happened yet. Not gonna let it.
1,343 posted on 12/27/2005 6:09:10 PM PST by Wampus SC (I am Dr. Borg. Resistance is futile. You will be recycled.)
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To: wolfcreek

Welcome to Terri December Dailies.

8mm


1,344 posted on 12/27/2005 6:15:27 PM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Wampus SC

Of course rigging elections are cheaper and more efficient. Just look at Chicago, New York, New Jersey, ad nauseum.

Everything I was brought up to believe in, is just a joke.


1,345 posted on 12/27/2005 6:17:18 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("The Less You Have...The More They'll Take"- bf)
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To: pickyourpoison

I don't know if they'll publicly regret their decision, but maybe privately a creeping doubt will linger in the back of their minds.

I would hate to think that this was a decision borne out of the parents wanting closure on their association with one another. It seems that the family was a good family, and truly did their best for this little boy, so I don't know how they could have ever thought that starving him to death would have been pleasant.


1,346 posted on 12/27/2005 6:50:23 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("The Less You Have...The More They'll Take"- bf)
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To: presently no screen name
Those buzzards again! Well, why not - it's their national bird. If the Felosian Faith ever takes over, they'll rename the US "West Sorosland". They'll change the national seal to a buzzard with 13 pentagrams holding legal briefs in one claw and some dehydrated roses in the other. The motto will read "E Greeribus Anus".

Yeah, Halloween is their holiday. They steal all the kids' candy and won't let anyone drink anything, but they throw a feast for themselves and give each other awards. At Antichristmas they put up pictures of Scrooge and have Happy Humbug parties. They also celebrate April 20th, birthday of their founder. Torture is their pornography. Human sacrifice in the form or abortion and euthanasia are their sacraments.
1,347 posted on 12/27/2005 8:44:44 PM PST by Wampus SC (Enjoying the Christmas truce.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Anytime there's a bioethicist involved, watch out.

Reading that thread I see that nearly everyone can only comprehend the issue in economic terms. How much it will cost, and who pays. And nothing else. I guess that's where our society is at now. Very discouraging.


1,348 posted on 12/27/2005 8:49:31 PM PST by Wampus SC (Enjoying the Christmas truce.)
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To: 8mmMauser
"Young Dylan was doing fine, but apparently an unreasonable encumberance for the parents. After all, it is not as if they were married or anything like that."

They did it for convenience's sake. We've sunk to that level as a country already? It happened much quicker than most of us would have predicted. Peter Singer's philosophy made reality. I'm too angry to say anything more about it.
1,349 posted on 12/27/2005 8:54:54 PM PST by Wampus SC (Enjoying the Christmas truce.)
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To: amdgmary
Deborah Wasserman Schultz.

Does anyone have any spare brain cells they could contribute to this woman?

1,350 posted on 12/27/2005 10:24:03 PM PST by IIntense (a)
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To: floriduh voter
"He lied to me."

I didn't know Larry King said that. Why did he not challenge Schiavo immediately? Because Larry King shies away from controversy, IMO. He needs to grow a spine.

1,351 posted on 12/27/2005 10:30:56 PM PST by IIntense (a)
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To: amdgmary

The picture you posted of these two creeps...gives me the creeps! The two faces of evil.


1,352 posted on 12/27/2005 10:33:49 PM PST by IIntense (a)
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To: 8mmMauser

That would be "pastor" Buddy Conn - great name for
a murder supporting clergyman!!


1,353 posted on 12/27/2005 10:43:29 PM PST by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: Halls

Editor,

Kevin Simpson's piece, "Letting Dylan Go," merits the
nation's most morally repugnant story of 2005.

Your decision to get the Exclusive by waiting until
Dylan's "journey" to the grave was complete is
reprehensible!

Readers might feel like they are reading a Twilight Zone
episode if they don't think about the reality of a disabled child starving
for 24 days, unto death.

Of course the whole sordid tale had the blessing of
the parent's spiritual leader, Pastor Conn - could a name be more apropos?

A morality tale at Christmas lacking love, hope, faith or
sacrifice - the real reasons for the season.

Leslie Hanks
V.P. Colorado Right to Life


1,354 posted on 12/27/2005 10:54:17 PM PST by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: Wampus SC
Trolls

Allow me to butt in here? I don't know either of you but the subject caught my attention. How does one show their sincerity when suspected of being a troll? One thread I have posted to has been pestered by trolls in the past. Therefore, when a new screen name appears, it apparently triggers immediate suspicion.

The alienation by some sends a message: "No newcomers welcome."

I decided that I don't need that c__p and in a very civil way, I bowed out.

That was followed by some of the FReepers on the thread asking me to stay...trolls have been attracted to the thread...in effect, they are leery, but now know I am not a troll.

The humorous side of this is, I didn't even KNOW what "troll" meant until I joined Free Republic. I posted to a topic, one which I had been following in the news.

I didn't need the written assaults and meanness I encountered by a few egomaniacs so I gave it up. They won.

1,355 posted on 12/27/2005 11:15:02 PM PST by IIntense (a)
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To: Wampus SC
Trolls

Allow me to butt in here? I don't know either of you but the subject caught my attention. How does one show their sincerity when suspected of being a troll? One thread I have posted to has been pestered by trolls in the past. Therefore, when a new screen name appears, it apparently triggers immediate suspicion.

The alienation by some sends a message: "No newcomers welcome."

I decided that I don't need that c__p and in a very civil way, I bowed out.

That was followed by some of the FReepers on the thread asking me to stay...trolls have been attracted to the thread...in effect, they are leery, but now know I am not a troll.

The humorous side of this is, I didn't even KNOW what "troll" meant until I joined Free Republic. I posted to a topic, one which I had been following in the news.

I didn't need the written assaults and meanness I encountered by a few egomaniacs so I gave it up. They won.

1,356 posted on 12/27/2005 11:21:01 PM PST by IIntense (a)
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To: Wampus SC
The motto will read "E Greeribus Anus". LOL!

Torture is their pornography. Human sacrifice in the form or abortion and euthanasia are their sacraments.

Very well said. That statement should be heard loud and often. You put their deeds into proper perspective - that truly is their mission statement .

1,357 posted on 12/27/2005 11:30:51 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: syriacus
"You've said that Michael was a liar..."

You didn't direct your post to me. I've been named as a troll, also, though the accusation is baseless, false.

As to Michael Schiavo, all the information put forth indicates he WAS at home when Terri suffered her problem. I detest the guy, wouldn't trust him to help me across a street, and I surely believe he is a liar. That does NOT mean that every word out of his mouth is a lie. Terri's father, and brother who lived in the same building, have reason to believe he was home at the time.

1,358 posted on 12/27/2005 11:46:47 PM PST by IIntense (a)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
"A liar is worse than a thief..."

Liars---I fear them for the destruction they can reap on innocent people. Most liars don't sink to that depth. Many lie for stupid reasons, like trying to pump themselves up, shore up their weak egos.

My reaction is: Don't lie to me. Don't insult my intelligence. I can see right through the lies.

My opinion of the NO disaster, from all I've read, amounts to the negligence of the local politicos. They failed to do their jobs and quickly blamed the Feds.

Oh, how easy it is to lie one's way out of blame.

1,359 posted on 12/28/2005 12:12:10 AM PST by IIntense (a)
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To: Theodore R.
"Michael Schiavo Tarnishes Terri's Legacy"

Thanks for your post by Jude Brown. Though a frightening description of where America (or some of it) is today, we need to know.

I have to think that the live-in mother of their two children shares his views.

She had better pray that neither she nor their children become incompacitated. Michael will determine whether they are "still alive" or are "already dead". Again, enter George Felos.

1,360 posted on 12/28/2005 12:28:30 AM PST by IIntense (a)
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