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Did 'revoked' living willkill communicative man?
WorldNetDaily ^ | November 4, 2005 | Diana Lynne

Posted on 11/04/2005 3:24:09 AM PST by 8mmMauser

Family members are investigating what they consider to be suspicious circumstances surrounding the death of a nursing home patient at the center of a life and death tug-of-war reminiscent of the Terri Schiavo tragedy.

Seventy-nine-year-old Jimmy Chambers died in the early morning hours of Oct. 24 after the tracheotomy tubes that deliver oxygen from a ventilator to a hole in his neck became unhooked. Family members were told Chambers, a resident of the Anne Maria Rehabilitation and Nursing Center in North Augusta, S.C., apparently pulled the interlocking tubes apart.

"We're having it investigated. We're just incredulous," Chambers' daughter, Deanna Potter, told WND in reference to her siblings. "The last time I saw dad he was blowing me a kiss. I blew him one and he blew one back."

The retired dispatcher for Holland Motor Express died approximately 10 hours later. His death certificate indicates he died of "natural causes."

"Apparently, suffocation is a 'natural cause' when you're on a ventilator. We're contesting that," said Potter. "He suffocated. He didn't just pass away. He struggled and fought. And I'm just so angry."

Potter estimates it would have taken 10 to 14 minutes for her father, deprived of oxygen, to fall unconscious, and questions why the nursing home staff didn't come to his aid.

"The oxygen-saturation meter and his ventilator both would have had alarms going off. Four-thirty, five o'clock in the morning you'd think someone would hear this," she added. "That's the thing that really bothers me and makes me suspicious."

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To: TheSpottedOwl

Michael Schiavo Tarnishes Terri's Legacy
by Judie Brown of American Life League
Posted Dec 20, 2005

It is frequently said that truth is stranger than fiction. In the case of Michael Schiavo, husband of the now deceased Terri Schiavo, this is precisely correct.

You may recall that during the years that Terri Schiavo suffered from a debilitating condition, Michael worked very hard to acquire legal permission to kill his wife by denying her the basic human right of receiving food and water. He argued that she would not want to be fed through a tube. His view was that she actually died 12 years earlier, and that the person in the hospital bed was not truly alive. Once he succeeded in achieving his goal, and his wife died, it became clear that Schiavo had designs on attaining as much public support and sympathy as possible. In fact, one might say that in the wake of Terri’s death, Michael Schiavo was starving -- for attention.

He received notoriety due to various awards that pro-death groups chose to give him. He made headlines when a woman in San Francisco was convicted of a crime for posting an Internet death threat leveled at Schiavo. The threat read, “If she [Terri] dies, I will kill Michael Schiavo and the judge.”

A reporter in Florida claimed that Michael Schiavo, who is a licensed health care provider, was being investigated by medical malpractice authorities due to some alleged misrepresentation on an employment application.

None of this satisfied Schiavo’s thirst for recognition; it appeared to know no bounds. In fact, his ego-driven self-absorption has recently launched him into the political realm. He has just announced the formation of the Terri PAC, a political action committee founded to “restore personal freedoms and individual human rights.” If you think this is a bit ridiculous, then you are sadly unaware of the immensity of the culture of death into which America is nearly fully immersed.

“Personal freedom” should be based on one’s ability to exercise free will and choose between good and evil. This is not the definition currently applied in the United States, however. The majority of our citizenry, for instance, claim a “personal freedom” to murder the innocent preborn child at any point in his life. So it is no surprise that Michael Schiavo is turning to the political realm to make sure that spouses like himself can exercise another aspect of this twisted idea of personal freedom: the “right” to eliminate an inconvenient family member when illness or debilitation strikes.

Some would call that killing. Others would describe it as pure evil. We would hope that very few indeed would perceive it as true “personal freedom.” Hope, yes; unfortunately, opinion polls would prove us wrong. The vast majority of Americans condone what Michael Schiavo did to his wife; they also condone taking the lives of preborn children through abortion. It’s all about those “personal freedoms” that we Americans supposedly hold so dear.

There’s also the sticky subject of “individual rights.” Schiavo’s announcement suggests that “individual rights” and “personal freedom” are the founding principles of his political action committee. The active component of his effort, however, is gathering support for candidates who support killing the weak and the vulnerable. What, pray tell, is actually at stake? Will anyone challenge Schiavo by inquiring precisely where we are to find the basic individual rights and personal freedoms of those targeted by his goals?

The preborn child is an individual who -- according to the likes of Schiavo and most politicians -- may not choose to exercise his own rights because he does not have a right to live. So too, according to Schiavo and his supporters, the ill, the severely disabled and the family members who are simply a “drain” have no rights at all, and they surely have no freedom -- at least, no freedom from harm.

In Schiavo’s view, efforts to save innocent lives are nothing more than political opportunism while those who fall prey to agendas such as his are merely being respected for their individual right to die. As he noted on his new organization’s website, “If our political leaders have taken no lessons from their shameless exploitation of Terri, and the public outcry against it, I have. I have taken my sadness, anger and worry and channeled them into a personal resolution: I will do everything in my power to keep another unsuspecting American family from re-living our private national nightmare.”

Excuse me? How could Michael have forgotten the personal agony and the nearly debilitating toll the struggle to protect their daughter took on her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler? It occurs to me that the so-called national nightmare was started by an unloving husband who wished to be free to cavort and beget children with a new mate while denying his wife rehabilitation and care, leaving her to decay. And we are supposed to be thankful that Michael Schiavo is taking his case to the political arena?

C. S. Lewis once wrote, “If you look for truth, you may find comfort in the end; if you look for comfort you will not get either comfort or truth, only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin, and in the end, despair.”

It is my firm conviction that Lewis’ words apply totally to the Michael Schiavos of this world. The problem is, of course, that those who support his point of view (most Americans, it would appear) happen to be in a position to make Michael’s version of truth become reality, enlarging that wicked comfort zone that will result in hell on earth for the victims. It’s the American way.

Mrs. Brown is president and co-founder of American Life League, the nation’s largest Catholic pro-life educational grassroots organization. She is a recognized expert on the sanctity of human life and member of the Pontifical Academy for Life.


1,181 posted on 12/21/2005 8:00:09 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: amdgmary

The whole world could give Michael Schiavo an award for "Person of the Year" and it wouldn't make me think any differently about him than I already do. I don't care how many accolades he gets from others. I know what he did, and he should be ashamed of himself. He isn't, and worse than that, he's proud of what he's done. Pride goeth before a fall. One day he'll get his just reward. God has Terri in the palm of His Hand.


1,182 posted on 12/21/2005 8:04:15 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: floriduh voter

An earthquake in LA? 3.0 isn't that bad, considering some of the ones I've rolled through, but I wonder why earthquakes are ocurring in parts of America where they never happened? OTOH, we started getting tornados starting around 10 years ago. Little ones, but they're still tornados.

I know, it's Al Gore's fault! *snicker*


1,183 posted on 12/21/2005 8:05:26 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("The Less You Have...The More They'll Take"- bf)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

Another corrupt judge in Schiavo Republican country:

CLEARWATER, Fla. -- A Circuit Court judge has been accused of having pornographic images on his work computer and using improper conduct toward two female lawyers.



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Brandt Downey, 60, habitually viewed pornography on his court-issued computer and had inappropriate contact and communications with female attorneys, the state Judicial Qualifications Commission said Tuesday.

Court employees were exposed to the images while working on Downey's computer, the charges state.

Downey's accused of telling an assistant state attorney, in private and in public, that she "looked nice today" and "looked pretty" and asked her to dine with him, which she declined. The charge also says he sent an inappropriate e-mail to a second female attorney.

"I am disheartened that the JQC has chosen to pursue these charges in what is now my last year on the bench. My attorney and I will make every effort to rapidly resolve these charges to our satisfaction," Downey said.

He announced last week that he will not seek re-election after 21 years on the bench in Pinellas and Pasco counties, citing "rumors and half-truths." Downey will retire when his term ends in January 2007.

JQC Special Counsel Beatrice Butchko, who is prosecuting Downey, said she intends to ask for his removal from office if the case goes to trial.

Downey also is charged with failing to disclose a juror's complaint that another juror was sleeping during a murder trial.


1,184 posted on 12/21/2005 8:19:13 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Maybe God is using the corrupt Michael R. Schiavo to demonstrate to the American people their own corruption.


1,185 posted on 12/21/2005 8:20:18 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Wampus SC

Many may not vote for him in the future. Oh wait, do Florida's cemetaries turn out for elections?


1,186 posted on 12/21/2005 8:33:35 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("The Less You Have...The More They'll Take"- bf)
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To: syriacus

If you are counting me as one of the three, forget it. I scoffed at your fairy tale from first sight. In doing so, I got to refresh and re-tell the growing case against Michael Schiavo, and to warn that there are adverse consequences to tampering with the truth. Both of those ends were worth my time.


1,187 posted on 12/21/2005 8:41:22 AM PST by T'wit (Pssst, Tom Cruise -- the Mother Ship is watching you very closely. DON'T DO THAT AGAIN!!)
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To: Theodore R.

"So it is no surprise that Michael Schiavo is turning to the political realm to make sure that spouses like himself can exercise another aspect of this twisted idea of personal freedom: the “right” to eliminate an inconvenient family member when illness or debilitation strikes."

In the near future, I believe this statement will be enlarged to include "expensive" family members. The baby boomers will be a tremendous drain on the resources of the federal government as they age, both with Social Security and Medicare. They will also do the unthinkable.... like spend their children's inheritance on something as stupid as health care!! I think that is where this is ultimately leading. Wouldn't it be interesting to watch Michael Schiavo's illegitimate children put him to an early death because all of the money he will raise will simply be too tempting to them. Rather than let him spend it on nursing care, perhaps they will pull his plug. The problem is that the justice that could await him will assuredly be the fate that awaits many boomers. "Quality of life" issues will be discussed nobly, but the real issue will be money.


1,188 posted on 12/21/2005 8:48:58 AM PST by DadsGirl ("Come to Me all who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Jesus Christ)
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To: syriacus

Sometimes it is difficult to parse what comes out of pathological liar's mouth. You are correct in pointing out that everything that MS has said about that night, should be treated with suspicion.

If there were any clues, LE either didn't find them, or ignored them. It is entirely plausible that someone else was in the house. If you take away MS's timeline, what's to say that while he was at work, someone came to the apartment and knocked on the door. Terri opens the door, and BAM! Of course I'm already starting to pick holes in that theory.

If you can come up with an alternate theory, I'd be willing to consider it.


1,189 posted on 12/21/2005 8:50:16 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("The Less You Have...The More They'll Take"- bf)
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To: DadsGirl

Lol! Is that why Tom and his ex, Nicole Kidman, adopt?


1,190 posted on 12/21/2005 8:51:44 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("The Less You Have...The More They'll Take"- bf)
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To: Theodore R.

There is a judge in Southern California who pled guilty to having kiddie porn on his computer. I don't trust any of them anymore.


1,191 posted on 12/21/2005 8:55:40 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl ("The Less You Have...The More They'll Take"- bf)
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To: DadsGirl

There's an old cartoon that puts it this way: an elderly woman rises from her hospital sickbed, where her "life support" is being removed, to shake her adult son. She tells him, "I knew I should have aborted you TOO!" Too late, she dies, and he collects her just rewards.


1,192 posted on 12/21/2005 9:40:28 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

I noted that many members of this forum did NOT even trust former Chief Justice Roy Moore, now an AL gubernatorial hopeful.


1,193 posted on 12/21/2005 9:41:17 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

I just read on another posting that CO has permitted the unmarried parents of cerebral palsy child to be starved and dehydrated. He became "more" than they could handle!


1,194 posted on 12/21/2005 9:47:41 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Theodore R.

Please post the link. Thanks


1,195 posted on 12/21/2005 9:55:43 AM PST by DadsGirl ("Come to Me all who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Jesus Christ)
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To: All
Anita Crane of the American Life League wrote an excellent report entitled, "Inside the Terri Schiavo Case: And Why it Matters Now." It was originally published on August 18, 2005 at LifeSite.net. Crane interviewed one of the attorneys for Terri's parents, Robert Destro. Destro was critical of Judge George Greer's behavior.

Excerpts:

"Judges are supposed to determine clear and convincing evidence in light of the whole, but the problem with Terri's case was that the evidence was only as good as the judges, said Destro.

"Florida law expressly requires probate judges to see the incompetent patients whose cases are pending before them, but Greer never went to see Terri.

The Destro-Connor petitions indicate that the judges' ethical and legal violations were so numeous and intertwined; it would take volumes to spell out the details."

Destro explained, "You can't really make up the facts of this case - I felt like I was caught in Wonderland or Neverland. Terri never got a fair hearing and she was entitled to at least as much due process as a convicted murderer...Terri's Law was designed to ensure that she got a fair hearing at which the actual substance of her condition could be litigated; and the federal courts were obliged to review the procedural and substantive fairness of the Florida proceedings."

Read the entire report here

1,196 posted on 12/21/2005 9:56:49 AM PST by amdgmary (Please visit www.northcountrygazette.org)
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To: 8mmMauser

I hate it when I see supposedly Catholic media distort the teachings of the Church or the writings coming from the Vatican. Pope John Paul II couldn't have been more clear about church teaching in the case of vegetative patients. It must be time to write to the St. Anthony Messenger. I'll look up the address in a little bit, and then post it.


1,197 posted on 12/21/2005 11:30:36 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: 8mmMauser

Another American who can see right past Michael! Thank you for pointing out this article.


1,198 posted on 12/21/2005 11:40:00 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Wampus SC

Feudal, futile, what's the difference anyway?


1,199 posted on 12/21/2005 11:42:14 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: DadsGirl
"Quality of life" issues will be discussed nobly, but the real issue will be money.

Well said. There are too many fools in this country.

1,200 posted on 12/21/2005 11:53:49 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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