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Deep roots of Paris riots
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | November 4, 2005 | Peter Ford

Posted on 11/03/2005 9:19:33 PM PST by ncountylee

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To: Cronos

Well, yes. But not just that. This is what happens when you allow your society to deny that it has a common heritage and to deny the importance of this heritage, its beliefs, its values, its morals, and its foundations.

France has been in the business of denying its past for some time now. I'm afraid we're having the same thing happening in this country, as well.

It's the whole, "You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything"-syndrome.


21 posted on 11/04/2005 12:02:54 AM PST by CheyennePress
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To: Cronos

"Allah IS NOT the same as theGod of theBible."

You are exactly right. Allah is NOT just the name the Muslims have for God; the Judeo/Christian God; Jehovah. As a matter of fact, Allah was the Meccan moon god. He is not a god of love.


22 posted on 11/04/2005 12:03:53 AM PST by no dems (43 muscles to smile, 17 to frown, two to pull a trigger; I'm lazy and tired of smiling.)
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To: Cronos
"Be more specific -- the problem is NOT race, NOT ethnicity, the problem is the cult of the moon rock"

LOL, that says it better than I did. I do understand the Germanic people are a broad assortment and not all arabs are muslims, but viewing some of the photos of the 'rioters', it appears that ethnicity and race do play a role in the "cult of the moon rock".

23 posted on 11/04/2005 12:58:45 AM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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To: seastay

I wouldn't call gang fights "riots." That's a totally different ballgame.


24 posted on 11/04/2005 1:03:37 AM PST by Clemenza (In League with the Freemasons, The Bilderbergers, and the Learned Elders of Zion)
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To: Cronos

Sarkozy is not Polish. He is Hungarian, Greek, and Sephardic Jewish.


25 posted on 11/04/2005 1:04:59 AM PST by Clemenza (In League with the Freemasons, The Bilderbergers, and the Learned Elders of Zion)
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To: Clemenza

Thank you. My mistake.


26 posted on 11/04/2005 1:41:05 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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To: seastay

Because some percentage of immigrant gangs do not hijack airliners full of people, kill the pilots and fly them into buildings killing thousands.

Because some percentage of immigrant gangs do not strap explosives to themselves and walk into crowded wedding receptions and blow people into small pieces.

Because some percentage of immigrant gangs do not capture defenseless innocent people and slowly saw their screaming heads off with long knives, while chanting how great their god is.

I suppose I could go on. But that is why.


27 posted on 11/04/2005 3:39:45 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: rlmorel

Did myou know that In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) are against illegal aliens?

Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens. These numbers rival the war on terriosm statistics, but nobody not even the local news will even report it!

Gangs are crossing the Mexican boarder in record numbers and it is so Clinton-ess by our elected officials not to not call these people for whom they really are, terrorists!

There is terrorism along the border states, officers are being shot at, citizens are being plagued with crime and vandalism. Just because nobody wants to call them for what they are, don't make it so!

Given it is next to impossible to find in the media or government to even to label them illegal, its no wonder nobody wants to even associate the word terrorism with this very real problem.


28 posted on 11/04/2005 7:56:50 AM PST by seastay
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To: seastay

I see what you are driving at, but these are not the same things.

Immigration policy (or lack therof) while intertwined to a degree, is a different subject. We do not expect Mexicans to come into this country and engage in the same kind of activities that Islamic fundamentalists might.

While those statistics are disturbing, they do not surprise me at all. And the 1,500 outstanding warrants for homicide...is that this year alone, or total over what span of years?

Additionally, do you not see a difference between 1,500 deaths by random violence, and 1,500 deaths as the result of a focused, dedicated activity against a group of people who are targeted for no other reason than they are non-subjugated non-muslims?

Any realistic person would recognize that 1500 deaths by beheading, suicide bombing, targeted attacks against non-muslims and so on would elicit a different response from the population at large than would 1,500 deaths due to domestic violence, drunken brawls, acts of passion and perhaps psychotic serial killers (which many believe are in the same category as Muslim extremists).

The same reasons that would compel people to treat that deaths on 9/11 differently than deaths caused by a tsunami or an earthquake are the same reasons that people treat the deaths caused by gang violence differently from deaths caused by a homicide bomber.

Context is not meaningless. Human nature exists, even though Liberals may not recognize that in their search for some kind of unachievable utopia. No matter how much money you give people, how much property you give them, how much love you give them, there will still be murder and theft. People will still be shot for looking different, wearing the wrong clothes, or looking oddly at someone. There will always be people who enjoy mayhem and violence. When we live in a society of laws, we expect people to adhere to those laws, and when they don't we make efforts to punish them.

When murder and mayhem are deliberately caused by external sources, that is when our hard earned tax dollars should be put to work in foreign countries, as they are now.


29 posted on 11/04/2005 8:34:01 AM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: ncountylee

Much of this article is a big ole steaming crock of ****

The black Catholics, who, according to this logic, ought to be rioting, are not. 'nuff said.


30 posted on 11/04/2005 12:09:04 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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