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Freep Poll - Voting out anti-Constitutional Judges (Pa.)
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Posted on 11/03/2005 6:59:49 AM PST by Tribune7

Supreme Court Justices Russell Nigro (D) and Sandra Schultz Newman (R), both of Philadelphia, are up for a 10-year retention election on Nov. 8. The justices were among those who OK’d the large pay raise -- clearly barred by any layman’s reading of the state constitution -- the state legislature voted itself last summer. Of course, judges also got a pay raise.

Yes -- It is time to send a message.

No -- This is not time for a temper tantrum

(Excerpt) Read more at countypressonline.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
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The removal of a sitting judge has never happened before in Pa.
1 posted on 11/03/2005 6:59:50 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: Temple Owl

ping


2 posted on 11/03/2005 7:00:14 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7

I am voting to get rid of them - maybe 4 times...


3 posted on 11/03/2005 7:02:44 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Willie Green; Mo1; ..

It doesn't really matter about freepin' the poll (although it would be nice). What does matter is voting on Nov. 8 in the election that counts. If this pair is removed, it would send a huge, huge message.


4 posted on 11/03/2005 7:03:01 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: 2banana

Ditto


5 posted on 11/03/2005 7:03:57 AM PST by zook
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To: Tribune7

Movement in Pennsylvania to throw out all incumbents in State and replace them with true public servants.

Hope Washington gets the hint.

6 posted on 11/03/2005 7:04:31 AM PST by ex-snook (Vote gridlock for the most conservative government)
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To: Tribune7

I am registered to vote in PA right now, will be sure to send these idiots packing.


7 posted on 11/03/2005 7:04:55 AM PST by NatsFan
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To: Tribune7
November 8th, 2005.

A day the PA Legislature will long remember.
8 posted on 11/03/2005 7:09:23 AM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: airborne
Remember, the judges are not on a party line.

They are kind of hidden on a line of their own. They may very well not be on any campaign lit you are handed.

Just vote No to retain.

9 posted on 11/03/2005 7:18:34 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7

I plan on voting them out but I heard on the radio this morning in Harrisburg that bills have been presented to roll back the payraise.

I may not have heard correctly but In regard to the unvouchered expenses, the senate's bill already passed like 50-zip. On the house side there were 2 against. I understood it to mean just the unvouchered expenses. Today it sounds like the whole enchilada will be up for reversal. They mentioned a vote in about two weeks.

I'm still going to vote to whack'em for putting us through this.


10 posted on 11/03/2005 7:19:31 AM PST by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: Tribune7

Yep. Thanks for the reminder!

My polling place is the fire hall next door. And there's less than 400 people in my town.


11 posted on 11/03/2005 7:21:04 AM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: Belasarius

Dang, I got it wrong...

Pa. Senate Approves Repeal of Pay Raise

Thursday November 3, 2005 4:31 AM
By MARC LEVY

Associated Press Writer

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) - Responding to months of public uproar, Pennsylvania lawmakers on Wednesday voted to repeal a July law that gave big pay raises to lawmakers, judges and senior executive branch officials.

``I think the people were heard on this,'' said Republican Sen. John Rafferty. ``It was too much (money) in one shot, and that was heard loud and clear.''

The Senate voted unanimously to repeal the law Wednesday evening, and the House followed suit several hours later, approving the bill 196-2 with little debate. Since the House amended the measure, another vote by the Senate will be required.

The repeal's sponsor in the Senate, Democrat Sean Logan, said the action would ``restore some integrity'' that lawmakers lost in passing the bill in the middle of the night without debate or public notice.

See more:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5388913,00.html


12 posted on 11/03/2005 7:22:59 AM PST by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: Belasarius

The PA House and Senate passed two different versions, so nothing has changed. The House added a clause that could re-instate the pay raise. We need to vote them out!


13 posted on 11/03/2005 7:27:07 AM PST by ILikeFriedman
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To: ex-snook

What makes you think the replacements will be "true public servants"? There are many good conservatives now serving in the legislature and I would not like to see them replaced by a Democrat who would throw their vote to whatever Gov. Rendell wants. We might teach them a lesson by voting them out but at what price? As the saying goes, you don't cut off your nose to spite your face...


14 posted on 11/03/2005 7:30:22 AM PST by Russ
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To: Tribune7
Does anyone remember Rose Bird? She was the Chief Judge of the California Supreme Court, appointed by then-Governor, Jerry Brown. She and several other members of that Court consistently voted to overturn EVERY death penalty that came before them.

Finally, the voters of California got bone weary of their Court thumbing its noses at their laws concerning the worst of the state's murderers. There was a voter revolt, directed at the Court. Bird was defeated in her retention election, as were either one or two of her associated judges.

It will take some serious work, but in the few states which have election for judges it is VITAL that the voters get up on their hind legs and slap down judges who have contempt for the law itself. This is the same debate at the state level which is currently going on nationally, over the nomination of Judge Alito to the US Supreme Court.

Read the history of how California dumped Rose Bird, and apply that in Pennsylvania. Good hunting.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "Democrat Official Outed as 'Sleaze' Source on Mayor O'Malley; Washington Post Ignored Story it Had (Updated)"

15 posted on 11/03/2005 7:30:51 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Do you think Fitzpatrick resembled Captain Queeg, coming apart on the witness stand?)
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To: Tribune7

"No -- This is not time for a temper tantrum"


no bias there, no sir


16 posted on 11/03/2005 7:32:59 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Russ

Both parties passed a bill that is clearly in violation of the State Constitution. I say get rid of the bums - all of them.


17 posted on 11/03/2005 7:33:18 AM PST by ILikeFriedman
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To: ILikeFriedman

I understand everyones frustration and rage but, then, they better not bitch and complain when they find that those who relaced the "bums" are even worse. You will see many opportunists who will run against incumbents hoping to use the pay raise as a catapult into the legislature. We need to look at their platform and beliefs carefully before voting them in or else we will rue the day. Exchanging one bunch of scoundrals for another is not the answer.


18 posted on 11/03/2005 8:00:42 AM PST by Russ
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To: Russ
There are some things that are more important than ideology. One is following the law. Voting for the pay-raise, in violation of the State constitution, is something that I will not forgive - regardless of party.
19 posted on 11/03/2005 8:14:49 AM PST by ILikeFriedman
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To: airborne

I'm afraid this is gonna be a tough one to pull off. There are just too many Filthadelphia voters. But we will try.


20 posted on 11/03/2005 8:58:02 AM PST by AGreatPer
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