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House Defeats Bill on Political Blogs
Guardian Unlimited ^ | Thursday November 3, 2005 | JIM ABRAMS

Posted on 11/02/2005 6:24:06 PM PST by livesbygrace

WASHINGTON (AP) - Online political expression should not be exempt from campaign finance law, the House decided Wednesday as lawmakers warned that the Internet has opened up a new loophole for uncontrolled spending on elections.

The House voted 225-182 for a bill that would have excluded blogs, e-mails and other Internet communications from regulation by the Federal Election Commission. That was 47 votes short of the two-thirds majority needed under a procedure that limited debate time and allowed no amendments.

The vote in effect clears the way for the FEC to move ahead with court-mandated rule-making to govern political speech and campaign spending on the Internet.

Opposition was led by Rep. Marty Meehan, D-Mass., who with Rep. Christopher Shays, R-Conn., championed the 2002 campaign finance law that banned unlimited ``soft money'' contributions that corporations, unions and individuals were making to political parties.

``This is a major unraveling of the law,'' Meehan said. At a time when Washington is again being tainted by scandal, including the CIA leak case, ``it opens up new avenues for corruption to enter the political process.''

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; blogs; campaignfinance; fec; freespeech; hillary; internet; weblogs
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To: livesbygrace

Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...

It would be easy to ask, what part of "Congress hall make no law..." do members of congress and President Bush not understand?

The fact is, they do understand what it means and chose to disregard its meaning and disregard their oaths to uphold the constitution by passing McCain-Feingold CFR. Their intent was to violate the constitution and their oaths to uphold it.

They got away with those crimes -- sort of -- now they want to commit others in similar fashion.

Each and every member of congress will be held accountable for their vote on McCain-Feingold and H.R. 1606

21 posted on 11/02/2005 6:44:04 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: livesbygrace

Control is freedom.


22 posted on 11/02/2005 6:44:13 PM PST by Generic_Login_1787
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To: Republican Wildcat
Yes, yes, yes - I read that part - that's why I quoted it.

The question is WHY?

23 posted on 11/02/2005 6:44:58 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: sittnick

I LOVE your tagline..


24 posted on 11/02/2005 6:45:28 PM PST by livesbygrace
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To: livesbygrace
where does this leave MOVEON.ORG?
25 posted on 11/02/2005 6:45:39 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: livesbygrace

"'This is a major unraveling of the law,' Meehan said. At a time when Washington is again being tainted by scandal, including the CIA leak case, 'it opens up new avenues for corruption to enter the political process.'"

Desperate "Leftspeak." You can stop reading right there...


26 posted on 11/02/2005 6:45:42 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: livesbygrace
Speaking of the CIA leak case, would Congress be kind enough to prohibit CIA employees from leaking information in an attempt to undermine the administration or effect elections? Don't they see a little problem with that?

The bloggers will go offshore and make such legislation moot.

The only way to enforce it would be to invade every country in the world and then hire a few million FEC enforcement officers.

Pathetic stupidity from Congress--as usual.
27 posted on 11/02/2005 6:47:21 PM PST by cgbg (Boxer and Feinstein confuse the constitution with Mao's Little Red Book.)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

I am sure this will find SOME way around this.


28 posted on 11/02/2005 6:47:23 PM PST by livesbygrace
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To: Jim Robinson

ping


29 posted on 11/02/2005 6:47:32 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: muawiyah
Is that Hastert guy going senile or what?

With this and the oil gouging stuff... who knows?

30 posted on 11/02/2005 6:47:53 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: infidel29

Senator McAnus?


31 posted on 11/02/2005 6:48:34 PM PST by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: Zon
April 13, 2005

Mr. HENSARLING introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on House Administration

A BILL

To amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to exclude communications over the Internet from the definition of public communication.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Online Freedom of Speech Act'.

SEC. 2. MODIFICATION OF DEFINITION OF PUBLIC COMMUNICATION.

Paragraph (22) of section 301 of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 (2 U.S.C. 431(22)) is amended by adding at the end the following new sentence: `Such term shall not include communications over the Internet.'.
32 posted on 11/02/2005 6:49:36 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: infidel29

Senator John McAnus?


33 posted on 11/02/2005 6:51:11 PM PST by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: sittnick
. . . court-mandated rule-making to govern political speech . . . on the Internet. That is chilling.

Indeed - I thought the 1st amendment specifically stated the GOVERNMENT could not infringe on political free speech? What am I missing other than the McCain/Feingold act and an out-of-control judiciary?

34 posted on 11/02/2005 6:54:29 PM PST by p23185
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To: All
Details on the roll-call vote by AP

The 225-182 roll call Wednesday by which the House bill voted not to exclude blogs, e-mails and other Internet communications from regulation by the Federal Election Commission. The vote fell 47 short of the two-thirds majority needed under a procedure that limited debate time and allowed no amendments.

A "yes" vote was a vote to exclude Internet communications from regulation by the Federal Election Commission.

Voting "yes" were 46 Democrats and 179 Republicans.

Voting "no" were 143 Democrats, 38 Republicans and 1 independent.

"X" denotes those not voting.

There is one vacancy in the 435-member House. ^ALABAMA

Democrats - Cramer, Y; Davis, N.

Republicans - Aderholt, Y; Bachus, Y; Bonner, Y; Everett, Y; Rogers, Y.

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Republicans - Young, X.

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Democrats - Grijalva, N; Pastor, N.

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Democrats - Berry, N; Ross, Y; Snyder, N.

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Republicans - Bono, Y; Calvert, Y; Cunningham, Y; Doolittle, Y; Dreier, Y; Gallegly, N; Herger, Y; Hunter, Y; Issa, Y; Lewis, Y; Lungren, Daniel E., Y; McKeon, Y; Miller, Gary, Y; Nunes, Y; Pombo, X; Radanovich, X; Rohrabacher, Y; Royce, Y; Thomas, Y.

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CONNECTICUT

Democrats - DeLauro, N; Larson, N.

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Republicans - Castle, N.

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Democrats - Abercrombie, N; Case, N.

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Democrats - Bean, N; Costello, N; Davis, N; Emanuel, N; Evans, N; Gutierrez, N; Jackson, N; Lipinski, N; Rush, N; Schakowsky, N.

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MASSACHUSETTS

Democrats - Capuano, Y; Delahunt, N; Frank, N; Lynch, N; Markey, N; McGovern, N; Meehan, N; Neal, N; Olver, N; Tierney, N.

MICHIGAN

Democrats - Conyers, Y; Dingell, N; Kildee, N; Kilpatrick, N; Levin, N; Stupak, N.

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Democrats - McCollum, X; Oberstar, N; Peterson, Y; Sabo, X.

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MISSISSIPPI

Democrats - Taylor, N; Thompson, N.

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MISSOURI

Democrats - Carnahan, N; Clay, Y; Cleaver, N; Skelton, N.

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NEW JERSEY

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Democrats - Ackerman, X; Bishop, N; Crowley, N; Engel, N; Higgins, N; Hinchey, N; Israel, N; Lowey, N; Maloney, N; McCarthy, N; McNulty, N; Meeks, N; Nadler, N; Owens, N; Rangel, N; Serrano, Y; Slaughter, N; Towns, N; VelIA!zquez, N; Weiner, N.

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OKLAHOMA

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OREGON

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35 posted on 11/02/2005 6:54:50 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: livesbygrace

Political speech is the core of the First Amendment. How did we ever get to the point where this fundamental right (a heck of lot more "fundamental" than the right to abort a fetus) is regulated by the government?


36 posted on 11/02/2005 6:56:12 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: livesbygrace; All

This is the same house that allowed homosexual special rights to slip through un noticed?

This is the incumbant protection blog suppression act.


37 posted on 11/02/2005 6:57:17 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Zon
FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 559
(Republicans in roman; Democrats in italic; Independents underlined)

      H R 1606      2/3 YEA-AND-NAY      2-Nov-2005      8:08 PM
      QUESTION:  On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Pass
      BILL TITLE: Online Freedom of Speech Act

  Yeas Nays PRES NV
Republican 179 38   13
Democratic 46 143   13
Independent   1    
TOTALS 225 182   26


---- YEAS    225 ---

Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Baca
Bachus
Baker
Barrett (SC)
Barrow
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Beauprez
Berman
Biggert
Bilirakis
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Blumenauer
Blunt
Boehner
Bonilla
Bonner
Bono
Boozman
Boren
Boucher
Boustany
Brady (TX)
Brown (OH)
Brown (SC)
Burgess
Burton (IN)
Buyer
Calvert
Camp
Cannon
Cantor
Capito
Capuano
Cardoza
Carter
Chabot
Chandler
Chocola
Clay
Cole (OK)
Conaway
Conyers
Costa
Cramer
Crenshaw
Cuellar
Culberson
Cunningham
Davis (KY)
Davis (TN)
Davis, Jo Ann
Davis, Tom
Deal (GA)
DeLay
Dent
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
Doolittle
Drake
Dreier
Duncan
Ehlers
English (PA)
Eshoo
Everett
Fattah
Feeney
Ferguson
Fitzpatrick (PA)
Flake
Foley
Forbes
Fortenberry
Fossella
Foxx
Franks (AZ)
Garrett (NJ)
Gerlach
Gibbons
Gingrey
Gohmert
Goode
Goodlatte
Granger
Graves
Green (WI)
Gutknecht
Harris
Hart
Hastings (WA)
Hayes
Hayworth
Hensarling
Herger
Herseth
Hoekstra
Honda
Hostettler
Hoyer
Hulshof
Hunter
Inglis (SC)
Issa
Istook
Jenkins
Jindal
Johnson, Sam
Jones (NC)
Keller
Kelly
Kennedy (MN)
Kennedy (RI)
Kind
King (IA)
Kingston
Kline
Knollenberg
Kolbe
Kuhl (NY)
Latham
Lee
Lewis (CA)
Lewis (KY)
Linder
Lofgren, Zoe
Lucas
Lungren, Daniel E.
Mack
Manzullo
Marchant
Matheson
McCaul (TX)
McCotter
McCrery
McHenry
McHugh
McKeon
McKinney
McMorris
Melancon
Mica
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Moran (KS)
Murphy
Murtha
Musgrave
Myrick
Neugebauer
Ney
Northup
Nunes
Nussle
Otter
Paul
Pence
Peterson (MN)
Peterson (PA)
Pickering
Pitts
Poe
Porter
Price (GA)
Putnam
Rahall
Rehberg
Reichert
Renzi
Reynolds
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rohrabacher
Ros-Lehtinen
Ross
Royce
Ryan (OH)
Ryan (WI)
Ryun (KS)
Salazar
Sanchez, Loretta
Scott (GA)
Sensenbrenner
Serrano
Sessions
Shadegg
Shaw
Sherwood
Shimkus
Shuster
Simpson
Smith (TX)
Smith (WA)
Sodrel
Souder
Stearns
Strickland
Sullivan
Sweeney
Tancredo
Taylor (NC)
Terry
Thomas
Thompson (CA)
Thornberry
Tiahrt
Tiberi
Udall (CO)
Waters
Watson
Weldon (FL)
Weller
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Wicker
Wilson (SC)
Woolsey
Wynn
Young (FL)

---- NAYS    182 ---

Abercrombie
Allen
Andrews
Baird
Baldwin
Bass
Bean
Becerra
Berkley
Berry
Bishop (NY)
Boehlert
Boyd
Bradley (NH)
Brown, Corrine
Butterfield
Capps
Cardin
Carnahan
Carson
Case
Castle
Cleaver
Clyburn
Coble
Cooper
Costello
Crowley
Cummings
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (FL)
Davis (IL)
DeFazio
DeGette
Delahunt
DeLauro
Dicks
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle
Edwards
Emanuel
Emerson
Engel
Evans
Farr
Filner
Ford
Frank (MA)
Frelinghuysen
Gallegly
Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gonzalez
Gordon
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Grijalva
Gutierrez
Hefley
Higgins
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hobson
Holden
Holt
Hooley
Inslee
Israel
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
Johnson (CT)
Johnson (IL)
Johnson, E. B.
Jones (OH)
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kildee
Kilpatrick (MI)
Kirk
Kucinich
LaHood
Langevin
Lantos
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
LaTourette
Leach
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Lowey
Lynch
Maloney
Markey
Matsui
McCarthy
McDermott
McGovern
McIntyre
McNulty
Meehan
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Michaud
Millender-McDonald
Miller (NC)
Miller, George
Mollohan
Moore (KS)
Moore (WI)
Moran (VA)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal (MA)
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Osborne
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Payne
Pelosi
Petri
Platts
Pomeroy
Price (NC)
Ramstad
Rangel
Regula
Rothman
Ruppersberger
Rush
Sánchez, Linda T.
Sanders
Saxton
Schakowsky
Schiff
Schmidt
Schwartz (PA)
Schwarz (MI)
Scott (VA)
Shays
Sherman
Simmons
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (NJ)
Snyder
Solis
Spratt
Stupak
Tanner
Tauscher
Taylor (MS)
Thompson (MS)
Tierney
Towns
Turner
Udall (NM)
Upton
Van Hollen
Velázquez
Visclosky
Walden (OR)
Walsh
Wamp
Wasserman Schultz
Watt
Waxman
Weiner
Weldon (PA)
Wexler
Wilson (NM)
Wolf
Wu

---- NOT VOTING    26 ---

Ackerman
Boswell
Brady (PA)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Cubin
Etheridge
Hall
Harman
Hastings (FL)
Hyde
King (NY)
Marshall
McCollum (MN)
Menendez
Miller (FL)
Norwood
Oxley
Pearce
Pombo
Pryce (OH)
Radanovich
Reyes
Roybal-Allard
Sabo
Stark
Young (AK)



38 posted on 11/02/2005 6:58:26 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

It seems that most Northeasterm Republicans joined their Democrat counterparts in squelching free speech.


39 posted on 11/02/2005 6:59:55 PM PST by rmlew (Sedition and Treason are both crimes, not free speech.)
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To: longtermmemmory
This is the incumbant protection blog suppression act.

Precisely.

40 posted on 11/02/2005 7:02:06 PM PST by polymuser (")
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