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Joe Wilson In A Bind
American Spectator ^ | 10-31-05 | Clinton W. Taylor

Posted on 10/30/2005 9:25:14 PM PST by smoothsailing

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To: smoothsailing

BTTT


61 posted on 10/31/2005 3:07:51 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: connectthedots
CONNECTTHEDOTS WROTE: "Will be interested to hear wilson and Plame's testimonies under oath at any trial of Libby, especially the cross examination. It's going to make them look very bad and may even set themselves up for perjury."

EXACTLY what I was thinking.

62 posted on 10/31/2005 3:34:31 AM PST by Concerned (My Motto: It's NEVER wrong to do what's RIGHT!!!)
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To: liberallarry
Third, Plame is clearly identified as a covert officer of the Counter-Proliferation section of the DO.

Wasn't clear to Fitzgerald apparently.

63 posted on 10/31/2005 3:38:52 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: SierraWasp
He has the right to lie thru his teeth. Too bad the MSM sees fit to swear to those lies.

Therein lies the problem.

We need a spokesman from the administration to set the record straight.

64 posted on 10/31/2005 4:22:07 AM PST by OldFriend (Fitzgerald is a Lawrence Walsh wannabe)
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To: OldFriend

This is a very good point.

The only way Libby can be charged with lying to the Grand Jury is the fact that he did learn (earlier than he said to the GJ) that Valerie Wilson did, in fact, suggest sending Joe Wilson on the trip to Niger.

The facts of the charges themselves imply Wilson is lying to this day about his wife's role.

This is a basic fact that the media cannot ignore any longer. 60 Minutes conviently left this out last night for example.


65 posted on 10/31/2005 4:33:51 AM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: Danae
Here's part of Page 39, for example...

66 posted on 10/31/2005 5:09:21 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: smoothsailing

My thinking is, how in the world did a person like this ever become an Ambassador to anything? Even in a Clinton
administration.


67 posted on 10/31/2005 5:20:03 AM PST by AIC
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To: smoothsailing

Great Story!


68 posted on 10/31/2005 5:20:46 AM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: JustDoItAlways

The media will never even acknowledge that Wilson is not truthful. They ignore the 9/11 Commission Report when it's convenient and drag it out as gospel when it fits their agenda for Bush bashing.


69 posted on 10/31/2005 5:32:51 AM PST by OldFriend (Fitzgerald is a Lawrence Walsh wannabe)
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To: smoothsailing
Sounds like Valerie wanted old Joe out of town All together now party down
70 posted on 10/31/2005 5:34:20 AM PST by solo gringo (Liberal democrats like Cindy Sheehan and Flori-duh judges are parasites)
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To: nopardons; liberallarry
If I may chime in...

liberallarry doesn't seem to be disruptive, so the question is, are his points valid? If yes, then we should pay attention. If not, then he provides good points to consider how they can be countered.

71 posted on 10/31/2005 5:40:18 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: liberallarry
The memorandum could indicate that she "offered up his name" or that she was responding to previous questions about him.

True, the words quoted from the memo Plame wrote could be interpreted as response to questions asked about her husband. But that assumes someone asked those questions. But you stripped the "offered up his name" quote from context. Here's where it belongs:

Some CPD officials could not recall how the office decided to contact the former ambassador, however, interviews and documents provided to the Committee indicate that his wife, a CPD employee, suggested his name for the trip. The CPD reports officer told Committee staff that the former ambassadors wife "offered up his name" and a memorandum to the Deputy Chief of the CPD on February 12,2002, from the former ambassadors wife says, "my husband has good relations with both the PM [prime minister] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity."

Are you saying the CPD reports officer was lying when he said she "offered up his name"? Or are you saying he didn't really know, but thought she might have and assumed she did? By associating "offered up his name" with the memo, you are implying that the CPD reports officer merely read the memo and reported his interpretation of the memo to the committee knowing no other facts. That's your biased opinion, not shared by any reasonably objective reader.

72 posted on 10/31/2005 5:40:35 AM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: Gondring; liberallarry

No, he's not objective, he's a liar like Wilson, maybe not quite as bad.


73 posted on 10/31/2005 5:43:35 AM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: SierraWasp

NBC gave his position fifteen minutes and the truth, three.


74 posted on 10/31/2005 6:01:46 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Free choice is not what it seems)
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To: BigBobber

Post of the day!


75 posted on 10/31/2005 6:29:04 AM PST by Homer1
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To: palmer
Nobody's lying. People have differing and imperfect recollections of what probably was considered a relatively minor and unimportant event at the time.

Sorry if it seemed that used the phrase "offered up his name" out of context. I had seen the phrase before in a different context and should have explained that.

76 posted on 10/31/2005 6:50:15 AM PST by liberallarry
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To: smoothsailing

Where the HELL is the CIA Officer??? Where the hell is NOVAK??? Why don't they come out and expose this fraud????


77 posted on 10/31/2005 6:52:51 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. T)
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To: palmer
o, he's not objective, he's a liar like Wilson, maybe not quite as bad.

Nobody's objective, only relatively so. Making accusations about lying when - in my case at least - you're faced with differing perceptions and understandings only demeans you.

78 posted on 10/31/2005 6:53:31 AM PST by liberallarry
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To: spyone

Why the hell wasn't Valerie called to the Grand Jury??? I think maybe the CIA wouldn't let her? If that's the case theycan lie all day long and NEVER be held accountable.


79 posted on 10/31/2005 6:55:14 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. T)
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To: kcvl

he was all over CBS and NBC tonight just lyin his aging A$$ off!!! And I'm sure they are eating it up. I guarantee there won't be any rebuttal to his lies either. That would take "courage" to put on both sides.

And when is Clinton FBI head Freeh going to be on anywhere?

80 posted on 10/31/2005 6:57:39 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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