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1 posted on 10/30/2005 1:44:38 PM PST by libstripper
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To: libstripper
The Federal statute in this case, 18 USC § 2511(1)(a) specifically prohibits any person from intercepting “any wire, oral or electronic communication[.]”

And he was right, because the meeting did not involve Interstate communication (or any electronic communication at all), and the only law that applied was Iowa law which did not prohibit the tapeing.

Next!!

3 posted on 10/30/2005 1:53:26 PM PST by adamsjas
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To: libstripper
If Brian Conley was a participant to the meeting or conversationsand Illinois is a two party state with regards to wiretaping like New York is, then no law was broken. In New York it is illegal to intercept or tape any converation by a third party, i.e. someone not participating in the conversation. Some jurisdictions are one party states where taping is illegal under any circumstance. That's what got Linda Trip in trouble as she taped in a one party jurisdiction which was Maryland. Someone will have to ascertain if Illinois is a two party state as most states are, or a one party state with regards to wirtapping laws.

The law you quote is relevant only to electronic intercept of communications to which you are not a party.



4 posted on 10/30/2005 1:56:09 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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By most accounts,from various political persuasions, Fitzgerald is a brilliant man and could make a fortune in private practice. If you're looking for unscrupulous and ambitious attorneys, I'd start with the private sector first.

This garbage is really beneath FR.

8 posted on 10/30/2005 2:01:11 PM PST by independentmind
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"...in the Plame leak..."

I still don't understand why there was a grand jury investigation in the first place. The law they were citing to do the investigation was for covert operatives in FOREIGN COUNTRIES. Plame was in Langley, VA...besides which, everyone...her neighbors, et al, knew she was CIA; she was NOT in a foreign country!

Even so, if Libby had just told the truth each time he was questioned, they wouldn't have had a leg to stand on.


12 posted on 10/30/2005 2:07:50 PM PST by Fruit of the Spirit
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(((This starkly contrasts with Fitzgerald’s investigation of the Plame leak case. Here the alleged underlying violation was of either the 1992 Intelligence Identities Protection Act (the Identities Act) or the Espionage Act. The Identities Act prohibits disclosure of the identities of “covert” CIA agents, 50 USC § 421, and narrowly defines a “covert” CIA agent as an individual whose “identity . . . is classified information and . . . who is serving outside the United States or has within the last five years served outside the United States[.]” The Espionage Act, 18 USC § 793 is equally narrow in that it applies only to a specifically listed set of disclosures, not including the disclosure of covert agents’ identities and prohibits such disclosure only if it is done “with intent or reason to believe the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation[.]”



Plame wasn’t a “covert” agent since she had returned to the United States more than five years before her identity was disclosed. There couldn’t have been a violation of the Espionage Act because “covert” agents’ identities aren’t covered by that act and any disclosure of her identity was to protect the United States from the damage she and her husband were doing to it, not with intent to use the knowledge to injure the United States or help a foreign power.



Nevertheless, Fitzgerald went ahead with the Plame investigation without any reasonable chance of discovering any underlying statutory violation)))
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Oh for Pete's sake. He wasn't just empowered to investigate that one statute. He was empowered to investigate any illegal leaking. That could have meant the covert identity act, the espionage act, misuse of classified information, violating Wilson's civil rights, etc etc etc

Ashcroft & Gonzales both thought it warranted an investigation and chose him to do it. I'll trust that they had more info about the case than any of us.

And all of the griping ignores a point Fitzgerald made strongly. That Libby's lies made it difficult (or even impossible) to discover whether any of those laws had been broken. That's why people get charged with perjury or obstruction.

If Fitzgerald was the partisan hack some are making him out to be - he could have indicted Libby under those laws, he could have indicted Rove, he could have dragged Cheney back in under oath. Even if he lost the cases 18 months from now the damage would have been enormous. I've seen ambitious prosecutors indict on flimsy charges knowing that they probably won't hold up. They hope that more evidence will come later, or that the perp will plead, or someone will flip. Fitzgerald didn't do any of that...did he?


17 posted on 10/30/2005 3:02:13 PM PST by Dorian
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If Fitzgerald accepts Nadlers' offer to investigate Impeachment Charges of the Bush Administration, then we all conclude that he has an agenda and wants to be a hero to the left. I can't bring myself to say, " Hillary's AG".

If that should happen, all Hell will break loose.
21 posted on 10/30/2005 4:08:24 PM PST by NCMOM
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