Posted on 10/30/2005 11:20:54 AM PST by gcruse
Maybe the Baptists were waiting for Jesus to turn the water to Bud. Although how they'd tel the difference is beyond me!
They did. Don't you get it? LOL
Against the Constitution (which is informed by the Declaration of Independence) --- and just like the politically correct legalists in the religious left -- these SB legalists would attempt to impose their personal religious conscience on the rest of us if they were ever able to obtain enough political power.
Luckily, the Framers (who held the Biblical Worldview) drew up a Constitution that would stand in their way.
"Two people" handing out water. Yes, that's correct -- the Baptists (who traveled there to donate their time to help hurricane victims) were indeed handing out the Busch water, contrary to what most of this article says.
How do you arrive at that conclusion from this article? Have you traveled to the hurricane sites to help out? Are you handing out water, as these Baptists are doing? Are you sacrificing your comfort to serve others, as these Baptists are doing? Or are you typing comfortably in your pajamas?
Two out of a group of how many? And what kind of ostracism will they get back home, I wonder? Reminds me of the homeless shelters that require sitting through a sermon to get a bowl of soup. It's for your own good, of course. /sarc
As opposed to the shelters you and your friends run, no doubt. You don't run shelters at all??? My, what a surprise!
The Southern Baptists deserve our admiration and gratitude. They have prepared more than 5 million meals in the recent past for victims of these hurricanes.
If they do not want to hand out that particular water ... that's fine with me [and, no, I am not Baptist] ... let someone else hand it out.
The article states the opposite:
"The pastor didn't want to hand out the Budweiser cans to people and that's his prerogative and I back him 100-percent," said SBC volunteer John Cook.
I don't get the whole article. Why can't other people hand out the water? Red Cross is there... Apparently Busch employees are there...other charities are there I'm sure that don't have a problem passing it out.
Why pass it out at all? Just stick it on the side of the road and let people get it for themselves.
Everyone knows the SBC's position...seems like a smear job from the press and from Busch to me.
I personally know of volunteers who have taken their own vacation from work to go and help...they go for a week at a time in teams of 20 just from Oklahoma alone. They're not just passing out water, they are dressed in hazmat suits masks tearing out rotting home interiors and providing showers and washers/dryers for those that need them and watching children while people try to get their lives back in order. They're sawing up tree-limbs and repairing homes. About 80% of the meals that the Red Cross has passed out were prepared by Southern Baptist mobile food trailers.
There are Southern Baptist Medical professionals in Pakistan helping with the earthquake situation.
Southern Baptists are the 2nd largest trained disaster relief organization in the United States, after the Red Cross.
Let's trash 'em.
lol!
Yes, I did write that the Baptists were handing out the water. Because they were. Read to the *end* of the article, and you'll see that.
You're exactly right. These Baptists were there of their own accord, taking time off from work to serve those affected by the hurricanes. They deserve our respect, not our ridicule. Perhaps we should be quicker to question the motives of the reporters than to question the motives of those serving others.
:-)
I'm biased, I admit. I have gone through the training. I've signed up to head to Gulf Coast area on December 23rd and will be back on January 1st if all works out. My husband will be taking vacation time to stay with the jedis while I am gone.
I'm an RN and am part of the mobile medical team...but will do whatever is needed when I get there if that isn't a need.
Satire/sarcasm - yes?
Apparently their religious conscience tells them that they shouldn't drink alchohol so they refused to hand out the water that was sent by a beer company to people who may have no such "conscience". Did they ask the recipients if they minded drinking water sent by a beer company, first? I would bet $1,000. right now that they didn't. The conscience of tyrannical moral busibodies "who know what's best for everyone else" is all that mattered.
C.S. Lewis had their number down pat:
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under live robber barons than under omnipotent moral busibodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good, will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~ C.S. Lewis
Isn't that special?"
"We, therefore, the Representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by the authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare:
That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do.
And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.
Rights of Conscience is the foundation of American Politics.
For our founders, one man’s liberty did not rest upon another man’s conscience. Each citizen had the right to program his conscience according to the standards he felt were true and to live his life as his conscience dictated in his pursuit for happiness. Again Blackstone speaks on the subject of pursuing happiness.
"For he (God) has so intimately connected, so inseparably inter-woven the laws of eternal justice with the happiness of each individual that the latter cannot be attained but by observing the former; and, if the former be punctually obeyed, it cannnot but induce the latter."
...As believers, they believed that they had a responsibility to protect the lives and liberties of their fellow Americans against all tyranny and that each citizen should have the right as a priest [the scriptural teaching of "the priesthood of the believer"] to pursue happiness according to the dictates of his own conscience.
Many Christians in America were worried at the time when the U.S. Constitution was passed and feared that their right to let God govern their conscience might be replaced by the authority given to Congress as the U.S. Constitution was ratified. Thomas Jefferson was aware of their concerns and wrote the following:
"No provision in our Constitution ought to be dearer to man than that which protects the rights of conscience against the power of its public functionaries..." (Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Methodist Episcopal Church at New London, Connecticut, Feb. 4, 1809).
In America, one man’s liberty is not dependent upon another man’s conscience!
You are serious.
Well Friend, I offer you this gift...
May you wear it in good health.
No you aren't. LOL And neither was C.S.Lewis
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