Is this the "French Connection" we were looking for?

Self | 30 October, 2005 | Paperjam

[paperjam]

Okay, Freepers, I need your help here.

I think I may know what happened to get Wilson’s wife outed. For the most part I think I can prove it. I just need a little more information. The kind of stuff I can’t get to. But, I now know it all was a last ditch effort to stop the war before Saddam was captured in Iraq on 14 December, 2003

Please don’t go thinking I’m off my rocker, I don’t normally attempt investigative sourcing, but I do think there are legs under this story and they might begin here.

[Fedora]

Good find! :-)

[okie01]

According to Joe Wilson's entry in the 1998 edition of Who's Who in America, wife #2 was Jacqueline Marylene Giorgi. They were married July 1, 1986 (the first marriage ended in divorce in 1986). There is no mention of Jacqueline in the later editions (although wife #1 continues to be named).

Thanks for the reference. It's the first time I've seen her identified by her maiden name.

paperjam is correct that Googling her yields approximately nothing -- an educator by the same name in Bristol County Virginia...and a porn site.

I suppose that in itself might be significant...

[paperjam]

You state with clarity what I wish I had written but only thought. I think you accurately lay out the cause for Frances role and their position in this whole thing.

They are as dirty as the day is long and here we (the USA) are accused of going to Iraq 'for' oil and all along France wanted to keep us out 'for' oil.

[bvw]

The CIA is Franco-philic and likely penetrated to some small but significant extent at all levels by French agents. As the OSS they worked closely with the French underground and Free French, also the Spanish elite (the monarchists). The Riveria, Paris, great places to toss young American know-it-alls into a salad with french dressing.

IOW, the CIA has always looked out for French interests. And I'm no Julia Child to have cooked all this up.

[popdonnelly]

I was following you up until the point you got to Wilson's second wife and Wilson. That's conjecture on your part. I don't think the evidence is there yet.

I definitely believe that raising France's involvement in this is worthwhile. A French company may have been involved in selling yellowcake to both Iraq and Libya. When the documents in question were found to be forgeries, they would have discredited the Niger/yellowcake story - which, to a great extent, they have.

[popdonnelly]

"I'm unclear on how the fake documents would have helped the French economy."

Here's two ways they would have helped. France had lucrative oil contracts with Saddam. And a French company may have been involved in selling yellowcake uranium. Publishing forged documents, and having them discovered to have been forgeries, would help shoot down both the yellowcake story and the rationale for going to war against Saddam. So France's oil leases might be protected, and the yellowcake sales would not be discovered.

[norton]

I thought the faked doc's turned up a couple of months after Wilson's trip and 'report'.

[pnut22]

I searched high and low for info on wife #2. Not sure what it means, but this site has the three of them all at the same address. http://eyeball-series.org/plame-eyeball.htm
I posted this before cause it struck me as just plain weird.

JACQUELINE C WILSON, 55, 4612 CHARLESTON TER NW, WASHINGTON, DC 20007 (202) 3429888

VALERIE WILSON
4612 CHARLESTON TER NW
WASHINGTON DC 20007
(202) 342-9888

[paperjam]

What you write is true.

That is why I'm seeking the help of Freepers everywhere. I can't track her down at all. Her last known location was Gabon in 2000 where she was paid $60,000 for four months work (to write letters). Seems like a lot to me for a few letters. She must know some folks in really high places to charge that much.

We know she's a former "French" Diplomat. Isn't it odd that a former diplomat married to a former US ambassador is no where to be found on the web? If she were dead, we'd know for sure. I think she's a true deep cover spy. Maybe a double agent. I think she got to Wilson, I just can't prove it. That's why I've asked for help in proofing out my line of research.

[paperjam]

They did, that's why nothing he did fits. Either he's lying or he's part of the plan.

If you can help figure it out, we might break this thing.

[Maigrey]

Also include in that J. Chiraq's son was a higher-up in TotalElfFina in 2002-2003. So, the family would benefit directly from these negotiations.

Read it here on FR sometime back.

[kalee]

ping interesting stuff

[commish]

Hmm just speculating here but something struck me while reading your posts. you Theorize Jacqueline might be French intelligence. We know Joe was diddling Valerie while still married to Jaqueline, and it was at this time that Valerie told Joe she was CIA.

But, what if Jaqueline knew Valerie was CIA, and what we have here is a little social engineering. Once Valerie tells Joe she is CIA, Jaqueline and Joe basicallyy own her. Thus providing the reason Valerie would sayyy "hey how about we send my husband to Niger".

[Bob from De]

Fall of 2002, sometime after October 9 - A report from the U.S. Navy suggests that uranium being transferred from Niger to Iraq was discovered in a warehouse in Cotonou, Benin. The report indicates that the broker for the deal is willing to talk about it, but, mysteriously he is never contacted by the CIA or military intelligence.

The above is from "Joe Wilson's Lies,A Timeline"
Since Benin is south of Niger and is on the coast,it would seem to be a logical shipping point.
I believe that I have recently read that the FBI investigation into the forged Niger documents is still open.
If the FBI located these naval personnel and this broker,found out who the Navy reported this to,and why no action was taken. Could this information have wound up at CIA-Valerie Division?
Were the French behind the sale?
It would be interesting to know what gave Fitz "pause".
An ongoing investigation perhaps?

[popdonnelly]

From: OVERSEAS BUSINESS REPORTS (GABON)

---

University of Missouri-St. Louis

Gabon has significant uranium reserves. The most important deposit of uranium is at Mounana. Estimated reserves are 15,600 tons, which should last between 15 and 20 years at current production levels. The Compagnie des Mines d'Uranium de Franceville (COMUF), in which both the Gabonese Government and French and Gabonese private interests participate, is the primary producer of Gabon's yellowcake. Production in 1989 reached 890 tons. However, COMUF's contract with the French nuclear utility company
expired in December 1989 and was not renewed. As a result of the loss of its biggest and most lucrative customer, the mining company will probably be forced to scale back production.

http://www.umsl.edu/services/govdocs/obr/obr_0003.htm

Joe Wilson was Ambassador to Gabon from 1992 to 1995.

[RVN Airplane Driver]

Might we have a menege a trois....????

[Albertafriend]

Here is more information On Jacqueline Wilson that we collected last July on this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458059/posts

I'm including some of the posts to save us the trouble of looking them up and so that everyone will see the information we had found back then.

To: Fedora
"How could a retired State Dept wonk and a mid-level 70k a year analyst afford to buy a $750,000 house in 1999?"
That is an intriguing question given the fact that Wilson had retired a year earlier. His State Department penison, based on 22 years of service times 2% times $125,000 (tops) for his high three equals $55,000 a year. Moreover, he had to pay child support from his previous marriage and his second wife (French) had a claim to part of his pension, i.e., they were married for more than 10 years. She would be entitled to about half Wilson's pension. Wilson's third wife, Valierie, could not have been making more than $100K a year. They would have needed a large down payment to qualify for a loan.

I have always questioned why Wilson left the Foreign Service at what should have been the peak of his career. Moreover, those were his peak earning years. I wonder what the incentive was to leave and/or the push by the State Department to have him retire.

As you have pointed out previously, Wilson had some shady contacts in the Middle East. One wonders if Wilson profited from those contacts after he left the Department. There is definitely something that needs to looked at by the USG. They should follow the money. Maybe Wilson is trying to insulate himself from any USG investigation by being anti-Bush. He can always claim that it is politically motivated.
58 posted on 08/07/2005 6:28:18 AM PDT by kabar

To: kabar
One web source gives an address for Valerie Plame (presumably before she married Wilson) as living at 2700 Virginia Avenue NW in Washington, DC. This is the Watergate West apartment complex. I don't know what apartments sold for in the late 1990s, but they can be expensive now. For example, a recent sale of a 1300 sq. foot apartment indicated a sale price of $379,000. Ownership also involves a monthly fee of $912. which covers taxes, insurance, etc. Don't know where Wilson lived before. They might have raised down payments by sales of former residences.

The same link also mentions a jacqueline C. Wilson, 55, with the address 4612 Charleston Ter NW, which is where Joseph C. and Valerie now live. I don't understand this hit. If it's accurate, who is this 55 year old Jacqueline C. Wilson?
59 posted on 08/07/2005 2:23:33 PM PDT by Cautor

To: Albertafriend
"Isn't Jacqueline C. Wilson his second wife's name? The age seems about right. Why in the world would she be listed? Did she buy the house for them?"

That is very weird!
That is indeed strange. The Vanity Fair article stated,

"The Wilsons live in the Palisades, an affluent neighborhood of Washington, D.C., on the fringe of Georgetown. In winter, when the trees have no leaves, the back of their house has a stunning view of the Washington Monument. They’d first seen the house in 1998, when it was still being built, and they had instantly fallen in love with it. Even so, Plame took some persuading before they made an offer. “She’s very frugal,” explains Wilson. “My brother who’s in real estate had to fly in from the West Coast and explained that a mortgage could cost less than our rented apartment in the Watergate.” Plame also told Wilson that she’d be moving with him into the new house only as his wife."<.p

Records show that Wilson and his second wife, Jacqueline, to whom he was married for 12 years, were divorced in 1998. By the mid-90s, Wilson says, that relationship had pretty much disintegrated. “Separate bedrooms-and I was playing a lot of golf,” he says."

This does get curiouser and curiouser. How did they come up with the money for the house (they were renting at the Watergate) and were they (Valerie) the first occupants? Since Wilson got divorced in 1998, it is odd that she would be listed as the owner of the property.
63 posted on 08/07/2005 7:22:24 PM PDT by kabar

To: Cautor; kabar; Albertafriend; Shermy
Jacqueline was Wilson's second wife, before Valerie, who is his third (the first was Susan Otchis). During the tail end of their marriage Jacqueline was a registered foreign lobbyist for the Presidency of Gabon, where Wilson had a good relationship with President Omar Bongo. The Vanity Fair article mentions Wilson and Plame were renting an apartment in the Watergate before moving into their Palisades home, which is the 4612 Charleston adress. Records filed with the DOJ to comply with the Foreign Agents Registration Act list Jacqueline living at 6104 Bryn Mawr Avenue, Glen Echo, MD 20812 as of June 17, 1998 and 6120 Shady Oak Lane, Bethesda, MD 20817 in 2002. Now there was a period from 1997 to 1998 when Wilson was still married to Jacqueline but seeing Valerie, which may explain why Jacqueline is also listed at that address: apparently Jacqueline was living there while Wilson had moved in with Valerie. However, here's what's odd about that: a Washington Post article from October 8, 1998 lists this among home sales recorded recently by the District Department of Finance and Revenue, Recorder of Deeds Division, and supplied to the Post by the real estate information service First American Real Estate Solutions (formerly Experian):
"CHARLESTON TER., 4612-Barry Zuckerman Properties to Joseph C. IV and Valerie E. Wilson, $735,000."

So the house was bought in Wilson and Valerie's name, but Jacqueline was living there?

BTW, Jacqueline's 1998 foreign lobbyist registration form mentions this:

$100,000.00 received prior to registration on June 17, 1998

Maybe that's part of how Wilson augmented his income to pay for the home--in which case, though, it seems odd he and Valerie ended up with the home instead of Jacqueline.
65 posted on 08/07/2005 7:43:27 PM PDT by Fedora

To: Fedora
Resolution Trust Corp of Whitewater fame??
72 posted on 08/09/2005 11:55:34 AM PDT by mosquitobite

To: mosquitobite
Yes--Whitewater and S&L fame.
74 posted on 08/09/2005 7:40:47 PM PDT by Fedora

[zeaal]

Whew ... what a read. Thanks for your work.

[zeaal]

Blackmail? Could this be a possibility anywhere in this sorted tail?

[ScaniaBoy]

Thanks for your thread and the work done to compile these facts.

The post by ravingnutter that Peach mentions can be found here: post #42 of the thread Times Trashfest: The Trashing of Judith Miller . You should also compare your timeline with the Wuli's thread: Joe Wilson's Lies, A Timeline - Who Forged the Documents? (Vanity) , which is the most complete time-line I've seen on when the CIA got various reports that Saddam was trying to procure uranium from African countries (NB: not only Niger). Wuli's thread will give you the dates when Wilson was in Niger and when the CIA received the forged documents that were then handed on to the IAEA. Just as 's comments Wilson's journey predated the documents by some 8 months.

Okie01's question is excellent. I hadn't seen that statement by Wilson, but it confirms my own belief that Wilson was not a witting part of a plot, rather a fool, that unknown to himself ran the errands of a foreign country whose politics were not exactly in sync with the US Government.

Of course if more facts are revealed regarding Jacqueline Marylene Giorgi (thanks Verginius Rufus) I may have to change my mind.

What is clear though is that the French government would have done (and probably did) everything in its powers to stop the war and protect its present and future profits in Iraq. Total or Elf Acquitaine has always been a tool of French foreign policy. (We probably wouldn't have had an EU in its present form if it hadn't been for Elf - thank you so much for that one (/sarcasm).