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1 posted on 10/30/2005 4:13:48 AM PST by SE Mom
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To: SE Mom

Okay, I am going to hold my nose and read it.

I remember the siffling little wuss who said he received a release in a sudden dramatic fashion when in fact it was his lawyer who made the call to the source.


2 posted on 10/30/2005 4:16:12 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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Here is a KEY sentence in the piece:

" The Wilson part that really interested Fitzgerald was tiny, as I told TIME readers. Basically, I asked Libby if he had heard anything about Wilson's wife having been involved in sending him to Niger. Libby responded with words to the effect of, "Yeah, I've heard that too."


He said HE asked Libby...AND Libby simply said "Yeah, Ive heard that too"...


3 posted on 10/30/2005 4:16:31 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: SE Mom

What Scooter Libby And I Talked About
Exclusive: A TIME correspondent recounts his role in the Libby case
By MATTHEW COOPER/WASHINGTON

I was wet, smelling of chlorine. It was July 12, 2003, in Washington, a beautiful summer day, and I had just come back from swimming. All morning I had been trying to reach I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby for a cover story about both President George W. Bush's claim that Iraq had sought uranium in Africa and former Ambassador Joseph Wilson's controversial Op-Ed. I had been invited to a fancy Washington country club by friends. Since the club didn't allow the use of cell phones, I kept running from pool to parking lot to try to reach Libby, who was traveling to Norfolk, Va., with Vice President Dick Cheney for the commissioning of the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan. Eventually I raced home without showering in order to take Libby's call. When he finally reached me at around 3 p.m., we spoke for a few minutes as I sprawled on my bed. I had no idea that that brief phone call, along with a conversation with Karl Rove the day before, would leave me embroiled in a federal investigation for more than two years and that Libby would end up facing a five-count indictment. I doubt it occurred to Libby either. That afternoon, we talked a bit on background and off the record, and he gave me an on-the-record quote distancing Cheney from Wilson's fact-finding trip to Africa for the CIA. In fact, he was so eager to distance his boss from Wilson that a few days later, he called to rebuke me for not having used the whole quote in the piece.

We updated the online version of the story, and I went on to co-author a piece for TIME.com called "A War on Wilson?," which would attract the attention of special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald.

Almost a year passed between those pieces and my legal woes. In May 2004 I was subpoenaed by Fitzgerald, who was interested in my conversation with Libby. Since part of our conversation was on background, I, along with TIME Inc.—which would be formally subpoenaed a few months later because the company controlled my computer-written notes and e-mails—fought the order to protect the principle of source confidentiality. We lost, and in early August 2004 we were both facing contempt. For TIME Inc., part of the global behemoth TIME Warner, that meant a fine; for me, jail.

On Aug. 5, 2004, the night before TIME Inc. and I were scheduled to be sentenced, I called Libby to see if he would grant a waiver for my testifying. The lawyers representing TIME Inc. and me, who supported my making that call, thought Libby might well do so. After all, he had granted a waiver to a Washington Post reporter, and Tim Russert of NBC had just avoided contempt by testifying about his end of his conversation with Libby. Most important, my exchange with Libby about Wilson had been short and, in my thinking and TIME Inc.'s, not especially provocative. When I reached Libby to ask for the waiver I told him, "I've been called before the grand jury, and I think they're going to ask me about a conversation we had about a year ago.

Most of it was on the record, but part of it wasn't, and I wanted to see if I could get your permission to talk about the part that wasn't on the record." I told him that I would tell the truth about our conversation. Libby told me that he used to be a lawyer and that "to be safe" our attorneys should talk and if it was O.K. with them, it was O.K. with him. So the following week my attorney, Floyd Abrams, spoke with Libby's lawyer, Joseph Tate, and they hammered out the details of the waiver. On Aug. 23, I had a tuna sandwich and gave a deposition in Abrams' Washington office about the conversation. The Wilson part that really interested Fitzgerald was tiny, as I told TIME readers. Basically, I asked Libby if he had heard anything about Wilson's wife having been involved in sending him to Niger. Libby responded with words to the effect of, "Yeah, I've heard that too."

The contempt citation was lifted against me that day, and I breathed easy. As it turned out, a week later, Fitzgerald came back and insisted he wanted to know what another source had told me, and the struggle began all over again, with my refusing to name the source and TIME Inc. fighting the case all the way to the Supreme Court—which in June upheld the lower court's demand that the company turn over my notes and that I testify. Until now, that is the part of my involvement in the Plame affair that has drawn the biggest headlines: TIME Inc. did turn over my notes, over my objections, and my other source—Rove—did grant me a waiver to testify (see "What I Told the Grand Jury," July 25, 2005).

I was surprised last week that the Libby indictment even mentioned me. But apparently his recollection of the conversation differed from mine in a way that led the prosecutor to think he was lying. As for me, I still have no idea if Libby or anyone else has committed a crime. I only know that if there is a Libby trial, I'll testify truthfully and completely, as I did before the grand jury.


4 posted on 10/30/2005 4:17:00 AM PST by cody32127 (If Democrats are not evil, then evil has no meaning)
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To: SE Mom
Basically, I asked Libby if he had heard anything about Wilson's wife having been involved in sending him to Niger. Libby responded with words to the effect of, "Yeah, I've heard that too."

And this is supposed to be damaging to Libby?

5 posted on 10/30/2005 4:17:35 AM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: SE Mom

I, me, my, I me my. Buried in this narcissistic diatribe is absolutely no new information.


7 posted on 10/30/2005 4:18:48 AM PST by Dilbert56
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To: SE Mom

>>> I was wet, smelling of chlorine.


A reporter talks about the news. A journalist talks about himself with the news as backdrop.


8 posted on 10/30/2005 4:19:40 AM PST by tlb
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"I called Libby to see if he would grant a waiver for my testifying. The lawyers representing TIME Inc. and me, who supported my making that call, thought Libby might well do so. After all, he had granted a waiver to a Washington Post reporter, and Tim Russert of NBC had just avoided contempt by testifying about his end of his conversation with Libby. Most important, my exchange with Libby about Wilson had been short and, in my thinking and TIME Inc.'s, not especially provocative. "

Someone with something to hide would not have granted waivers to all these reporters.


22 posted on 10/30/2005 4:29:40 AM PST by gotribe (Hillary: Accessory to rape)
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ping-a-roo-ski


26 posted on 10/30/2005 4:35:06 AM PST by N8VTXNinWV
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Is it any wonder that the MSM reporters' memories are in sync, and that they are completely at odds with Libbey's memory? To the contrary. It is exactly what one would expect.

For some time now the MSM reporters have clearly had an agenda, one they have pursued with maniacal zeal. It is to "prove" the administration knowingly used falsified and doctored data about uranium from Niger. Their faith in this "truth" is complete and profound. All evidence is sifted, accepted, rejected, warped, twisted and reformed according to this powerful bias.

38 posted on 10/30/2005 4:46:23 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: SE Mom

I used to hear these kind of exchanges in the schoolyard when I was 7 years old.


40 posted on 10/30/2005 4:46:42 AM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: SE Mom
From Cooper:

The Wilson part that really interested Fitzgerald was tiny, as I told TIME readers. Basically, I asked Libby if he had heard anything about Wilson's wife having been involved in sending him to Niger. Libby responded with words to the effect of, "Yeah, I've heard that too."

From the indictment:

b. LIBBY advised Matthew Cooper of Time magazine on or about July 12, 2003, that he had heard that other reporters were saying that Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA, and further advised him that LIBBY did not know whether this assertion was true; and

I don't knw what Libby said but Cooper sure the hell doesn't claim what's purported in the indictment.

41 posted on 10/30/2005 4:47:28 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: SE Mom

This guy Cooper has a wife who is a close Hillary Clinton cohort. That smells worse than Chlorine.


64 posted on 10/30/2005 5:14:34 AM PST by hgro (A)
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To: SE Mom

Why aren't Miller, Russert and Cooper under a gag order?


65 posted on 10/30/2005 5:14:59 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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If anything, I hope the White House stops being the softies that they are. They could easily have been harder on Berger, x-president Clinton, and the whole bunch of crooks. Time to fight back!


79 posted on 10/30/2005 5:37:21 AM PST by arichtaxpayer (We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail.)
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It was cold. I smelled of vomit from reading a Matt Cooper piece. My eyes burned, the prose made me drool......................................................


99 posted on 10/30/2005 6:16:29 AM PST by Doc Savage (...because they stand on a wall, and they say nothing is going to hurt you tonight, not on my watch!)
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I was wet, smelling of chlorine. It was July 12, 2003, in Washington, a beautiful summer day, and I had just come back from swimming.

..It was a dark and stormy night, as most dark and stormy nights go when ideas are hatched in the cob-webbed recesses of brilliant minds laden with thoughts of nefarious deeds and undercover ghosts bent on haunting the powerful with destructive recalled conversations of seemingly innocent pillow talk laced with aspen tree referenced love codes and frightening remembrances of whispered National Security nightmare scenarios. I was alone. Wet. And naked. Sure, shrinkage may have played it's hideous prank on my body. But my brain was swollen with total recall. Heaving and pressing, as it were, on my frontal lobes. I never felt more alive..

Excerpt from Matt Cooper's new spy novel: "Naked Truth: The Ugly Side of Undercover Spies"

100 posted on 10/30/2005 6:16:43 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness (u)
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Well, this nails my theory. Matt Cooper was part of a Democrat plot to get Karl Rove on the record outing Valerie Plame and to try to nail him as Novak's source, and to create a myth that the White House, at Rove's direction, was running a "war" on Joe Wilson. Libby was never the intended target. Cooper was set up by the Kerry campaign, no doubt through his wife, to start calling the White House and setting up Rove. Notice he was much more willing to go to jail to protect his conversation with Rove than with Libby. He didn't want to testify about his conversation with Rove because he knew there was nothing there, but as long as he refused to testify Rove would be considered the main target of the investigation, which is what he wanted. Remember what Rove said in his email to Steve Hadley: "I didn't take the bait." Rove knew exactly what Cooper was up to.

This was all an orchestrated effort by the Kerry campaign, using Joe Wilson and playing on his delusions of grandeur and desire for fame. The Kerry campaign set Wilson up as a leaker to the WaPo and New York Times, then when Novak busted Wilson as a liar, they tried to set up Rove for "outing" his wife.

It's all come to naught. They never cared about Scooter Libby; he is not the political genius that has put the Democratic Party in the dustbin. This was ALL about burying Karl Rove. And they failed utterly.

Conservatuves need to stop with the right-wing conspiracy theories that this was some sinister plot within the CIA to overthrow the President. It wasn't. It was a blatant political plot by the Kerry campaign. led most likely by Chris Lehane - who, if you will note, has completely disappeared.

I just wish some enterprising reporter would put all these facts together and tell America the true story: that the Kerry campaign orchestrated a campaign of lies by Joe Wilson and used major media reporters to try to undermine the President in a time of war and throw the 2004 election.

110 posted on 10/30/2005 6:41:31 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (2,4,6,8 - a burka makes me look overweight!)
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"yeah, I've heard that too." is the basis for perjury? Give me a break.


120 posted on 10/30/2005 7:14:34 AM PST by wildbill
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To: SE Mom
This is the heart of the case:

"I had a tuna sandwich"

124 posted on 10/30/2005 7:25:12 AM PST by woofie
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I was wet, smelling of chlorine. It was July 12, 2003, in Washington, a beautiful summer day, and I had just come back from swimming.....

Skip, Tad and I had been swimming laps and playing water polo, while Buffy and Muffin were in the corner of the pool discussing the latest European Fashions with Mandy.

Muffin was mad at the waiter for giving her a Bellini made with frozen,(not fresh ) peaches! This caused a huge brouhaha and everyone's afternoon was ruined!

It is seared, seared in my brain...

133 posted on 10/30/2005 7:58:22 AM PST by Repub4bush ((Proud Member of the Water Bucket Brigade) Mark Levin for Kennedy's SCOTUS seat!)
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