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Bad Blood Exists Between White House, CIA
Yahoo ^ | 10/29/05 | AP

Posted on 10/29/2005 2:06:03 PM PDT by advance_copy

Washington (AP) - Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff is learning one Washington lesson the hard way: Don't do battle with people who run covert operations for a living. The bad blood between the White House and CIA has been known for some time. But the 22-page indictment Friday of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby displays - in black and white - just how nasty relations had become between senior White House officials and the nation's spy chiefs.

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...former CIA official Lee Strickland, who was responsible for all disclosure activities at the CIA as chief of its information review group, said he can't recall a time in his 30 years at the agency when there was so much tension with the White House.

He said the situation highlights problems with the politicization of intelligence. "You want to keep the politics separate from the intelligence," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at asia.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cia; cialeak; joewilson; libby; tenet; valerieplame; whitehouse
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To: Mark Felton
This is a direct result of Pres. Bush's behaving like an imbecile and refusing to fire all clinton political appointments, in all the cabinet offices and executive agencies, replacing them with his own loyal supporters

Bingo! Bump

81 posted on 10/29/2005 3:41:35 PM PDT by itsahoot (Any country that does not control its borders, is not a country. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jim Robinson
Leftist democrats are embedded in all government agencies

I said years ago that our government bureauracy is loaded with leftist democrats and have the potential to bring our government to a standstill if someone were to organize them in some fashion.

82 posted on 10/29/2005 3:45:47 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Well, we haven't played Cheney and CIA yet, have we? This should get really interesting.


83 posted on 10/29/2005 3:47:28 PM PDT by tenthirteen
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To: Cicero

....Every American can't do a damned thing about the CIA. Only Bush can. You can't fight them in the press or the courts, but you can FIRE the SOBs, and that's what Bush should have done long since............

Can't even do that!

All the manuals by all the human relations folk, first require that the supervisor goes through a number of warnings, before it gets bumped to the next higher level, before it gets bumped to the next higher level.

Then the employee reviews say that the individual did good work under prior administrations, and they can't be fired.

Look at what Klintoon's goons tried to do to be totally rid of Linda Trippe, took them years to get her transferred to Siberia, but never rid of her.


84 posted on 10/29/2005 3:54:05 PM PDT by aShepard
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To: WildTurkey
president is omni-potent and can, with a wave of his hand, direct miracles

Strange, Clinton sumarily fired every Federal Prosecutor in a single day.

85 posted on 10/29/2005 3:54:36 PM PDT by itsahoot (Any country that does not control its borders, is not a country. Ronald Reagan)
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To: advance_copy
I think this country would be safer if the CIA were disbanded and we started all over again. The Niger incident looks to me like a darn farce...sending an idiot former Ambassador to have tea, write an oped in a newspaper, then whine about the outing of his wife as they are having their picture taken for the cover of Vanity Fair. Then there was the book writing nonsense.........Sheesh!

Yes, I strongly believe we should disband the CIA and start over.
86 posted on 10/29/2005 3:59:10 PM PDT by Chgogal (Viva Bush, the real revolutionary. We're winning the WOT in Iraq! Goodbye Che. Hello W!)
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To: Dorian

I find it strange that Wilson was sent on a CIA mission and did not have to sign a "confidentiality clause". When he got back he wrote an op-ed piece for the NY Times.

I hardly think this is standard operating procedure for a CIA mission. This is one reason this thing smells to high heaven. I can't recall this ever happening before.


87 posted on 10/29/2005 4:00:02 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: advance_copy

The CIA deserves our support for their professionalism, and enormous competence in preventing of what might have been a tragedy on 9/11/01.... Oh wait...


88 posted on 10/29/2005 4:05:44 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: itsahoot
Strange, Clinton sumarily fired every Federal Prosecutor in a single day.

And tried to push a massive medical care bill on the public without public input. And see where that got them. The republicans took both houses. Kennedy is still sore at Bill&Hillary for that. Bush learned from that, particularly knowing that he would face a much more hostile press.

89 posted on 10/29/2005 4:07:16 PM PDT by WildTurkey (True Creationism makes intelligent design actually seem intelligent)
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To: independentmind

"By all means, let's find out where the fake Niger documents came from."

That is an excellent idea. We already know that the French were willing to pay to have them spread around. Somebody knows who had them, and somebody knows who produced them. We also know that there were big economic stakes involved in the Iraq trade - oil for France and Russia, uranium for Iraq.


90 posted on 10/29/2005 4:07:16 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: ClaireSolt

"Fortunately, Porter Goss made some mad enough to quit."

Great. I will light a candle in the hope that Goss makes some more mad.


91 posted on 10/29/2005 4:13:57 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Psycho_Runner

Washington is not Texas. You do not pet the sharks in the shark tank. Figuratively speaking, you whack them with a two-by-four. It doesn't change their behavior, but it gets their attention.


92 posted on 10/29/2005 4:17:07 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: marty60

"Amen to that one. Bring back the OSS."

At least the OSS was capable of performing its mission.


93 posted on 10/29/2005 4:21:33 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: aShepard

You can fire the political appointees, such as George Tenet, who remained far too long.

You can use your CIA director to transfer the bad actors to Siberia.

You can continue to pay their salaries but give them nothing to do and cut them off from access to anything important that's going on.

Regretably, this still means they are still living high off the hog on the federal payroll, but at least it puts them where they can do less damage.

As for Lind Tripp, she never used her job position to undermine clinton. She only tried to defend herself when Clinton tried to force her to commit perjury under oath.


94 posted on 10/29/2005 4:23:36 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Jim Robinson; Congressman Billybob
I asked Billy Bob if Libby's lawyers can depose the reporters who, according to Fitzmas will be the witnesses against Libby. Billy Bob said no. Depositions are not allowed in criminal cases... only civil cases.

BillyBob went on to tell me that Libby's attorneys will certainly cross examine the reporters when they are on the witness stand. He said Libby's lawyers may very well ask questions that the reporters might refuse to answer. He said if a witness refuses to answer some questions the remedy for the defendant is to throw out all of that witneses testimony. Hmmmmmmm

Click here for the 'tator take on why Fitsmas was so nervous during his press conference.

95 posted on 10/29/2005 4:26:13 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: WildTurkey
Bush learned from that, particularly knowing that he would face a much more hostile press.

Those events had nothing to do with each other. I don't recall a single politician running against a dem ever mentioning the Federal Prosecutors.

Besides, Newt deserves a little credit for the victories.

96 posted on 10/29/2005 4:40:04 PM PDT by itsahoot (Any country that does not control its borders, is not a country. Ronald Reagan)
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To: thoughtomator; Howlin; conservative in nyc; NYC Republican; Mark Felton; holdonnow; kristinn; ...
"Occam's razor says that not only is she not a victim, but is likely the prime mover of the whole affair, using her dumbass husband like the fool he is."

Nor should we let the news media get away with ignoring Scooter Libby's wife...the life-long Democratic who more recently served as a Democratic staff lawyer for the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Just as Joe Wilson's spook wife is deeply involved in this scandal, so too should we look at Scooter Libby's wife's involvement.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/28/AR2005102800986.html?sub=AR

97 posted on 10/29/2005 4:41:41 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

Thanks. I'll have a look now.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/28/AR2005102800986.html?sub=AR


98 posted on 10/29/2005 4:43:15 PM PDT by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: Common Tator; commish

c#97

Then keep in mind that Scooter Libby is a Democrat...served as a college President of Democrats...his law firm only donates to Democrats...he's married to a career professional Democrat, etc.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/28/AR2005102800986.html?sub=AR


99 posted on 10/29/2005 4:44:47 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

C#97


100 posted on 10/29/2005 4:50:44 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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