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Hispanics Uncovering Roots as Inquisition's 'Hidden' Jews
NY Times ^ | October 29, 2005 | SIMON ROMERO

Posted on 10/29/2005 6:07:22 AM PDT by Pharmboy

HOUSTON, Oct. 28 - When she was growing up in a small town in southern Colorado, an area where her ancestors settled centuries ago when it was on the fringes of the northern frontier of New Spain, Bernadette Gonzalez always thought some of the stories about her family were unusual, if not bizarre.

Her grandmother, for instance, refused to travel on Saturday and would use a specific porcelain basin to drain blood out of meat before she cooked it. In one tale that particularly puzzled Ms. Gonzalez, 52, her grandfather called for a Jewish doctor to circumcise him while he was on his death bed in a hospital in Trinidad, Colo.

Only after Ms. Gonzalez moved to Houston to work as a lawyer and began discussing these tales with a Jewish colleague, she said, did "the pieces of the puzzle" start falling into place.

Ms. Gonzalez started researching her family history and concluded that her ancestors were Marranos, or Sephardic Jews, who had fled the Inquisition in Spain and in Mexico more than four centuries ago. Though raised in the Roman Catholic faith, Ms. Gonzalez felt a need to reconnect to her Jewish roots, so she converted to Judaism three years ago.

"I feel like I came home," said Ms. Gonzalez, who now often uses the first name Batya. "The fingerprints of my past were all around me, but I didn't know what they meant."

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; US: Arizona; US: Colorado; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: americanjews; conversos; cryptojews; inquisition; maranos; marranos; sephardicjews; southwest; spain
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1 posted on 10/29/2005 6:07:23 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: SJackson; dennisw

Ping...


2 posted on 10/29/2005 6:08:20 AM PDT by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Pharmboy

I'll order a gefelta fish taco please with a side of refried coogle.


3 posted on 10/29/2005 6:11:25 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Put a mirror to the face of the republican party and all you'll see is a Donkey.)
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To: Pharmboy

This is unexpected.


4 posted on 10/29/2005 6:16:54 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Pharmboy
Well, there is a lot of evidence Jesus was hispanic and probably from Mexico.

  1. Who else would name their kids Jesus?
  2. He always had a lot of children around him.
  3. The authorities who arrested him always had a hard time understanding what he was saying.
  4. He was very good at getting across rivers, some even claimed he walked on water.
  5. He was a carpenter by trade.
  6. He loved little children.

5 posted on 10/29/2005 6:17:12 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: Pharmboy

There are a lot of Jews in American history.


6 posted on 10/29/2005 6:17:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: cripplecreek
There are a lot of Jews in American history.

There are a lot of Jews in prominent and heroic roles in world history as well.

7 posted on 10/29/2005 6:22:07 AM PDT by TheGeezer
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To: TheGeezer
Here are a couple of interesting websites. As a Christian I find Jewish history fascinating.


http://www.jewish-history.com/civilwar/Default.htm

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/sugar12.html
8 posted on 10/29/2005 6:23:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Pharmboy

"Ms. Gonzalez started researching her family history and concluded that her ancestors were Marranos, or Sephardic Jews, who had fled the Inquisition in Spain and in Mexico more than four centuries ago. Though raised in the Roman Catholic faith - - - - "

Like Patty Hurst, they joined their persecutors.


9 posted on 10/29/2005 6:24:36 AM PDT by RoadTest (The Bible is to change us; not us to change the Bible)
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To: ClearCase_guy

http://nanrubin.com/html/hidden.html

Hidden Crypto jews of NM, very interesting.


10 posted on 10/29/2005 6:26:43 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: Pharmboy

Last week the NYT was running articles about enlightened Mexican women becoming Muslims. I smell a liberal...


11 posted on 10/29/2005 6:29:35 AM PDT by doodles2 (Pigtails too tight)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

LOL!!


12 posted on 10/29/2005 6:44:37 AM PDT by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

From your link:

"In 1492"

Which was the same year they finally chased the last of the mooselimbs out of Spain.

"the Spanish Inquisition"

No, that was Isabella and Ferdinand.

"forced more than 200,000 Jews to chose between expulsion or forced conversion to Catholicism."

There ain't no such thing as "forced conversion." They were offered the choice between voluntary conversion and leaving.

"Many became crypto-Jews, insincere converts, appearing to be devout Catholics but secretly maintaining Jewish rituals in their homes and passing down their true faith to their children."

And it was *these* people that the Inquisition sought to uncover. No person who could say, "Yes, I'm a Jew. Everbody knows it, and I've never pretended to be anything else," was ever touched by the Inquisition.


13 posted on 10/29/2005 6:47:04 AM PDT by dsc
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To: dsc
There ain't no such thing as "forced conversion." They were offered the choice between voluntary conversion and leaving.

Your definition of "voluntary" and mine are quite different. Ain't nuthin' voluntary about "convert or leave."

14 posted on 10/29/2005 7:30:42 AM PDT by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Pharmboy

If any of you have the opportunity to visit Santa Fe, please tour the Palace of Governors Museum on the Plaza. It has one whole room dedicated to the Jews who settled NM and their roots up to today, how they assimilated into the native and catholic culture but still retained their roots. It is all there.


15 posted on 10/29/2005 7:35:26 AM PDT by Concho
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To: Concho

Slightly belated welcome to FR. Are you another NM Freeper?


16 posted on 10/29/2005 7:38:17 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: Concho

I've been there a few times (prolly the last time in the early '90s) but never have seen that. Will look for it next time I'm there--thanks.


17 posted on 10/29/2005 7:38:38 AM PDT by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Pharmboy

As you go in the front lobby, where they take your money, it is~~or was~~the large area to the left (West).


18 posted on 10/29/2005 7:47:27 AM PDT by Concho
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To: Pharmboy

"Your definition of "voluntary" and mine are quite different. Ain't nuthin' voluntary about "convert or leave."

How about the word, "or."

Try it this way: "All you Jews get out and take your skills and technology with you. Oh, by the way, if you feel you can convert to Catholicism, you can leave."

It was the expulsion, ordered by Ferdinand and Isabella that was involuntary. Voluntary conversion was a way to escape it.


19 posted on 10/29/2005 7:49:29 AM PDT by dsc
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To: Concho
Thanks...and as TJ said, welcome to FR.

I have a childhood friend who lived in Albuquerque for about 15 years (the family has since moved) and would therefore visit The Land of Enchantment. Quite a country out there...especially enjoyed the trip to Acoma, even though the Indians were miserable to us touristas.

20 posted on 10/29/2005 7:51:07 AM PDT by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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