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1 posted on 10/29/2005 2:06:43 AM PDT by Quaker
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To: Quaker

Not at all surprised with them. They showed their colors in 2000. Amen.


2 posted on 10/29/2005 2:10:28 AM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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I'd have to agree with the SCOFLA on this one.. 'Ex post facto' and all that...


3 posted on 10/29/2005 2:12:58 AM PDT by vikingd00d
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The ruling pretty much follows the rulings in other states on other retroactive laws, such as the California law that removed the statute of limitations on child molestation - the state supreme court ruled that it would apply to forward cases, but old cases would not apply.
4 posted on 10/29/2005 2:15:53 AM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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The FL Supreme Court is actually correct. The US Constitution requires that any loss of liberty (the freedom to do whatever doesn't violate the rights of others) be imposed by due process of law--which means that it must be imposed as a sentence rendered by a court pursuant to conviction for a crime. Punishments imposed directly by a legislature--especially including ones "tacked on" after a court has already imposed a sentence--are Constitutionally prohibited. The reason is because such laws are Bills of Attainder, and are explicitly forbidden by the Constitution (a prohibition that applies to both Congress and the States.)


5 posted on 10/29/2005 2:16:26 AM PDT by sourcery (Socialists eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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They're exactly right on this one. The Constitution explicitly forbids it:

"No Bill of Attainder (punishment without trial) or ex post facto (after the deed) Law shall be passed."


6 posted on 10/29/2005 2:43:37 AM PDT by Jaysun (Democrats: We must become more effective at fooling people.)
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Government employees and courts are full of perverts and sexual predators. It is known. So go figure....soddom's on the way and they get special protections.

A judge in my town let basicaly a statutory rapist go because he did not have sex, "he made love to her".

Exploitation is exploitation, and the government has a big conflict of interest in this topic implying victims should fight back with a gun.


7 posted on 10/29/2005 2:48:39 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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I'm not sure ex-post facto applies here. Being designated a sex predator is as much a mental health designation as a criminal one.


8 posted on 10/29/2005 4:08:03 AM PDT by elmer fudd
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Would you like to be assessed back taxes and penalties for every year you had income if they raise taxes next year? This is an accurate reading of the law with an unfortunate consequence, IMHO.


12 posted on 10/29/2005 5:39:01 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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Im not 100% Certain on this law. My sister was murdered by a predator in 1977,my grandmother helped initiate a death penalty law in my state,and that would have ony affected convictions since the date the law was enacted.I believe that since this isnt a criminal charge,maybe it is an ok law?Although the same reasoning could be used in a d.u.i database.or other less menacing laws.slippery slope scenario here.Not to diminish d.u.i convictions.


14 posted on 10/29/2005 5:57:27 AM PDT by Nooseman
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15 posted on 10/29/2005 6:04:14 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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They're right. Otherwise, it would be an ex post facto law.
30 posted on 10/29/2005 11:19:54 AM PDT by AmishDude (Welcome to the judicial oligarchy.)
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