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The Worst Jobs in Science No.3- Kansas Biology Teacher
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Posted on 10/28/2005 2:36:03 PM PDT by scientificbeliever

3. Kansas Biology Teacher On the front lines of science's devolution "The evolution debate is consuming almost everything we do," says Brad Williamson, a 30-year science veteran at suburban Olathe East High School and a past president of the National Association of Biology Teachers. "It's politicized the classroom. Parents will say their child can't be in class during any discussion of evolution, and students will say things like 'My grandfather wasn't a monkey!'"

First, a history lesson. In 1999 a group of religious fundamentalists won election to the Kansas State Board of Education and tried to introduce creationism into the state's classrooms. They wanted to delete references to radiocarbon dating, continental drift and the fossil record from the education standards. In 2001 more-temperate forces prevailed in elections, but the anti-evolutionists garnered a 6-4 majority again last November. This year Intelligent Design (ID) theory is their anti-evolution tool of choice.

At the heart of ID is the idea that certain elements of the natural world—the human eye, say—are "irreducibly complex" and have not and cannot be explained by evolutionary theory. Therefore, IDers say, they must be the work of an intelligent designer (that is, God).

The problem for teachers is that ID can't be tested using the scientific method, the system of making, testing and retesting hypotheses that is the bedrock of science. That's because underpinning ID is religious belief. In science class, Williamson says, "students have to trust that I'm just dealing with science."

Alas, for Kansas's educational reputation, the damage may be done. "We've heard anecdotally that our students are getting much more scrutiny at places like medical schools. I get calls from teachers in other states who say things like 'You rubes!'" Williamson says. "But this is happening across the country. It's not just Kansas anymore."

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Just one crazy troll after another.













141 posted on 10/28/2005 7:04:00 PM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: balrog666












What is that? Snow? In Florida?













142 posted on 10/28/2005 7:05:34 PM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: balrog666

Always new blood isn't there?


143 posted on 10/28/2005 7:05:48 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: KMJames

Hey, it's Friday. Have a cold one and while you're at it thank evolution and the yeasty beasties for that little pleasure.


144 posted on 10/28/2005 7:08:18 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: Mister Da

There was a brief return to the native values, et. That caught my attention. I now live in a isolated forest in Appalachia.


145 posted on 10/28/2005 7:09:28 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Right Wing Professor
In the bad old days of surgery, people sometimes stopped breathing under ether -- it was, and possibly still is, a routine event. It was the job of the anesthesiologist to manage this.

My father was assisting in a minor surgery in the days when ether was dripped onto a mask. The patient stopped breathing, and the anesthesiologist left the OR to get a priest.
146 posted on 10/28/2005 7:17:27 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: etlib
"Evolution" is a word which describes the action prediction by "evolutionary theory" It is not a fact but a theory supported by facts. Some of the facts are specific fossils, and some are things like DNA similarities among species. Claiming that evolution is a fact plays into the hands of the anti-evolutionists."

Evolution, which is the variation of allele frequencies within a population due to differential reproduction, 'is' a fact. The Theory of Evolution is the explanation for the observation of the fact of evolution. If you feel it gives too much amo to the anti-evos, make sure you preface your explanations of 'theory' and 'fact' with an acknowledgment of the two different uses of the word evolution.

147 posted on 10/28/2005 7:20:14 PM PDT by b_sharp (The DI is the Keystone Corps(e))
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To: furball4paws
Hey, it's Friday. Have a cold one and while you're at it thank evolution and the yeasty beasties for that little pleasure.

Yeah, you're absolutely right. Thanks for your peaceable post. I think I'll go watch "Godzilla verse Mothra" with my kids.

Have a good night.

148 posted on 10/28/2005 7:20:40 PM PDT by KMJames
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To: furball4paws
Any modern drug, especially antibiotics.

Alas, your sentence is incomplete, so I am not sure what you mean.

149 posted on 10/28/2005 7:21:12 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: furball4paws
Hey, it's Friday. Have a cold one and while you're at it thank evolution and the yeasty beasties for that little pleasure.

Wise words indeed. Goodnight.

150 posted on 10/28/2005 7:26:20 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Tamar1973
I could just as easily assume, with equal merit, that those skulls are simply a mix of simian and human skulls and none of them are a "link" to something else.

Then you should be able to point to two adjacent skulls: one ape, one human - Between them would be the "missing link"

If you can't find such a postioning then there is no obvious ape-human gap, just a continium.

151 posted on 10/28/2005 7:31:30 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Paging Nehemiah Scudder:the Crazy Years are peaking. America is ready for you.)
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To: Borges
I'd never heard that before. Stupefying.

That is probably due to the possibility that the charge is not true.

Here is a link to the various drafts and final standards.

Kansas Science Standards

For example here is the description of the final 1999 standards.

The creationist-influenced "sub-standards." This is the December 1999 version, based on the August 11, 1999 standards, but slightly revised to avoid the fact that the national science organizations refused to give copyright permission to use their language.

Here is what you find in that standard

Benchmark 1: The students will understand that the structure of the Earth's system is constantly changing due to the Earth's physical processes.

Earth has four major interacting systems: the lithosphere/geosphere, the atmosphere, the hydrosphere, and the biosphere. Earth material is constantly being reworked and changed. The rock cycle, the water cycle, and the carbon cycle are powered by physical forces, chemical reactions, heat, energy, and biological processes. The solid Earth is layered with a lithosphere, which is a hot, convecting mantle, and a dense, metallic core. Huge lithospheric plates containing continents and oceans slowly move in response to movement in the mantle. These plate motions also result in earthquakes, volcanoes, and mountain-building. Landforms are caused by constructive and destructive Earth forces.

Instruction needs to be designed to uncover and prevent misconceptions about natural selection. Natural selection can maintain or deplete genetic variation but does not add new information to the existing genetic code. Using examples of microevolution, such as Darwin’s finches or the peppered moths of Manchester, helps develop understanding of natural selection. Examining fossil evidence assists the student’s understanding of extinction as a natural process that has affected Earth’s species.

2. The different methods of evaluating fossils, radioactive decay and the formation of rock sequences and how they are used to estimate the time rocks were formed.

Example: Investigate how rocks and fossils are dated. Identify assumptions used in radioactive decay methods of dating. Compare and evaluate data obtained on ages from such places as Mount St. Helens and the meteorite named Allende.


152 posted on 10/28/2005 7:31:39 PM PDT by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: Dimensio; Tamar1973
"goo to you via the zoo." is a Creationist chant/response to "what to we think evolution is?"

It come from the title of a book c.1980 by Christian missspeaker Hank Hill

153 posted on 10/28/2005 7:47:23 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Paging Nehemiah Scudder:the Crazy Years are peaking. America is ready for you.)
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To: Tamar1973
"He states, "All observed biological changes involve only conservation or decay of the underlying genetic information. Thus we do not observe any sort of evolution in the sense in which the word is generally understood."

The use of the term 'genetic information' is simply a reification of a visualization technique to enhance understanding.

Strange he did not mention gene duplication or chromosome duplication, both increase the size of the coding and highly conserved non-coding genome.

His use of 'generally understood' is more properly stated as 'generally understood by creationists'.

154 posted on 10/28/2005 7:49:15 PM PDT by b_sharp (The DI is the Keystone Corps(e))
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To: AndrewC
Here is a link to the various drafts and final standards.

Thanks for the link.  From it I found the reason so many anti-IDers dislike the standards.  They say:

The evidence in any FR ID thread is that many anti-ID posts do not tolerate "respect, sensitivity, and civility" in discussions and that ridicule, belittling and embarrassment is a frequent method of argument. I doubt that those posting would want the students to "discuss the question further with his or her family" or any other possible source of dissent from their theology.
155 posted on 10/28/2005 8:00:36 PM PDT by etlib (No creature without tentacles has ever developed true intelligence)
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To: Disambiguator
They usually devolve (pun intended) into ad hominem attacks before too long...

Only an idiot would say that.

156 posted on 10/28/2005 8:25:15 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: AndrewC
Example: Investigate how rocks and fossils are dated. Identify assumptions used in radioactive decay methods of dating. Compare and evaluate data obtained on ages from such places as Mount St. Helens and the meteorite named Allende.

Since you brought this up, perhaps you could explain, in detail, the point that you are trying to make.

Oh, and for extra credit, do it from your own knowledge.

If you do it from a CS/ID website, deduct 20 points.

;-)

(I have seen this three or four times now, so I figure the CS/ID types have another little "anomaly" which they think blows all of geology, biology, and evolution out of the water--but which is probably just a fingament of somebody's imagination.)

157 posted on 10/28/2005 8:42:03 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Coyoteman
Since you brought this up, perhaps you could explain, in detail, the point that you are trying to make.

Kindly read the thread. You will find that my post was in answer to the charge They wanted to delete references to radiocarbon dating, continental drift and the fossil record from the education standards.

Looking at the documentation pointed to by my link and cited in my post, you can decide for yourself whether an attempt was made to delete references to those things.

158 posted on 10/28/2005 8:52:50 PM PDT by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: KMJames

Among the evos, there is a soft spot for Mothra. I think it's the twins.


159 posted on 10/28/2005 9:01:09 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: Logophile
So you tell me: How does an understanding of the theory of evolution affect what a practicing physician does?

So you tell me: How does an understanding of QED affect what a practicing electrician does?

160 posted on 10/28/2005 9:34:10 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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