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To: RonDog

I saw her on my local news cast last night and the media actually showed her being assulted and showed her arguing with the union mobsters.

What I didn't notice on the news was any POLLING data about where the propositions stand. Just the usual anti-Arnold sentiment, the sky is falling talk. The local news seemed to imply the Arnold's propositions are not popular and will not pass. I think they are going to pass BIG and the media knows it and will not publisize this.


63 posted on 10/28/2005 8:54:54 AM PDT by Diplomat (Give me a real Conservative on the Supreme Court, or give me Republican party death!)
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To: Diplomat
What I didn't notice on the news was any POLLING data about where the propositions stand.
See also, from www.fresnobee.com:
Governor's special election in spin cycle

(Updated Friday, October 28, 2005, 4:45 AM)

Arnold Schwarzenegger's war on Democratic legislators and their labor union allies may have begun with his famous — or infamous — remark in July 2004 that the lawmakers were "girlie men" for refusing to stand up to the unions.

Active hostilities commenced three months later, on Oct. 27, 2004, when Schwarzenegger, appearing before a women's conference, mocked union nurses who were fighting with him over work rules.

"I'm always kicking their butts," a chuckling Schwarz-enegger said. "That's why they don't like me."

Within days, Schwarz-enegger and his aides were drafting ballot measures that became his "year of reform" crusade, confident his soaring approval ratings, then nearly 70%, would seal his dominance of the Capitol.

As it happened, the one-year anniversary of Schwarzenegger's "kicking their butts" remark Thursday coincided with the release of a new poll indicating Schwarzenegger and his anti-union ballot measures are faring poorly. And the poll shifted both sides into full spin cycle.

The poll, conducted for the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), found Schwarzenegger wins approval from just a third of all adult California. And of the four measures he is pushing, PPIC said three are running behind among likely voters and the fourth, requiring public worker unions to get members' permission to use dues for politics, is tied.

"Whose butt is getting kicked now?" anti-Schwarzenegger media maven Steve Maviglio crowed in an e-mail to reporters.

Almost simultaneously, the Schwarzenegger camp, citing tracking polls, claimed three of his four measures are winning...

...Clearly, the Schwarzenegger-business coalition has been hoping for a low turnout in which more conservative voters would vote heavily, but if turnout rises to the level the PPIC poll indicates, that would be a plus for his Democrat-union opponents.

Varying expectations of turnout could be one explanation for the seeming contradiction between PPIC's findings and those reported by the Schwarzenegger camp. PPIC gave bare-bones descriptions of the measures while the governor's pollsters may have used their own versions...


69 posted on 10/28/2005 10:52:39 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: Diplomat

I saw it on local news also. I know what these union rallies are like, how the people are mindless mush, but this was shocking! Genevieve presented herself amazingly well, considering what had just happened to her, as she spoke in favor of the propositions.

Otherwise, local media, KTLA in particular are campaigning against the props non-stop. The FOR ads are really good. I'd especially like to see 75 pass. I HATE unions.

YES ON 75.

Any info on GOTV in L.A. would be appreciated . . .


79 posted on 10/28/2005 12:19:58 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Free Republic = the people's think tank.)
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To: Diplomat
The local news seemed to imply the Arnold's propositions are not popular and will not pass.

One of the propositions is not popular (don't recall the number) - has to do with State confiscation of civil service pension funds that were NOT funded by taxpayer monies. Through sound investments of employees' contributions to their own accounts, over many, many years, L.A. County Employees' Union pension funds are worth trillions of dollars now.

Other counties, such as Ventura, used the same system. The ones who didn't, such as San Diego, are bankrupt.

Arnold and Company need to understand this is not their money to use to solve California's idiotic welfare system that inept, spendthrift, and downright dishonest legislators created

127 posted on 10/28/2005 10:13:15 PM PDT by lakey
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