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Upcoming changes to the forum

Posted on 10/27/2005 5:16:18 PM PDT by John Robinson

Edited on 10/30/2005 2:01:52 PM PST by John Robinson. [history]

I'm working on the following changes to the forum software:

Thread URLs will change.

Old links will be redirected to maintain bookmark compatibility. The new links will be more descriptive, offering the date of the article and perhaps a meaningful filename.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1510575/posts doesn't say much.
http://www.freerepublic.com/2005/10/27/freeptoon/p1 says so much more.

Time zone handled by browser.

The timestamps on threads will change to your computer's local time zone, but only if you have JavaScript enabled. Otherwise they will be in US/Eastern. Your FR preference will be ignored (and will be phased out in favor of browser-side time zone handling.) The beauty of this arrangement is that as long as your computer displays the time in your time zone, FR will "Do The Right Thing"(tm).

Fixed number of comments.

No more than 50 comments per page will be shown. Your preference of 20, 100 or 250 is going to be ignored. I know this is a bit of a heartbreak for some, I understand it is a sacrifice. There are very good and very strong reasons this is changing.

Article text.

Only the first page of the thread will show the article text, and will always show the article text. Subsequent pages will only ever show a summary. In the future, a little browser-side magic could make the article text appear when you click a link.

All for one and one for all.

Everybody logged in or not will see the same content and links. For example, in the existing software, if you're not logged in you won't see the "Report Abuse" links. This check is going away, everybody will now see the same row of buttons.

In exchange, we'll have cache-friendly forum pages. This means:

Update 10/30/05

I've expanded the scope of changes. I'm cleaning up the information we present to search engines like Google and Yahoo. Our site will be more useful to third-party search engines and thus more useful to you. For the most part this will not directly impact our human visitors. There will be changes that could break bookmarks of certain types of pages, but the chances such bookmarks have ever been made are slim.


TOPICS: Announcements; Technical
KEYWORDS: adminlectureseries; faq; fr; idontgetit; lexicon; youdaman
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To: Bush_Democrat

Oh thanks...I had decided I was just talking to myself on this thread.....good suggestion!


201 posted on 10/27/2005 11:52:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: John Robinson

Keep up the excellent work John.


202 posted on 10/28/2005 12:48:22 AM PDT by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: John Robinson

I'm riding the wave--TX Mini-Boss!


203 posted on 10/28/2005 2:43:10 AM PDT by shetlan (100% American)
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To: John Robinson

no complaints from my end - none of the changes will affect me any ;)


204 posted on 10/28/2005 3:45:45 AM PDT by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: John Robinson
I have one request. How 'bout adding this.focus() to the slave window script?
205 posted on 10/28/2005 4:52:37 AM PDT by BufordP (Excluding the WOT, I haven't trusted W since he coined the term "compassionate conservative")
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To: John Robinson

Thanks John Rob

Bump to the Top for great info


206 posted on 10/28/2005 5:39:29 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (<>< Like $3 a gallon gas? Thank an enviromentalist.)
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To: John Robinson

Thanks for continuing to make FR the BEST site on the internet. I really mean that!


207 posted on 10/28/2005 5:42:52 AM PDT by conservaDave
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To: rdb3

lol.. just noticed the "r" is a .45.

guess my eyes aint what they used to be.


208 posted on 10/28/2005 5:51:51 AM PDT by Praxeus
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To: John Robinson
Old links will be redirected to maintain bookmark compatibility. The new links will be more descriptive, offering the date of the article and perhaps a meaningful filename.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1510575/posts doesn't say much. http://www.freerepublic.com/2005/10/27/freeptoon/p1 says so much more.

I like the idea of the article link having the date, but not the descriptor. The numerical link system, for me at least, has its uses, especially as article shorthand. I often write down just the number of an article thread when I am using a computer not at my home, and then I just plug that number in when I get home and voila. A numeric based system blended with the date would be the best. Something like :

     http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/051028XXXX/posts

This gives you the date 051028 and then the XXXX could be the sequence of posts for that day. 0510280001 would be the first post after midnight on that day and each post after would sequentially follow: 0510280002, 0003, etc., etc.

Speaking of article dates, I have occasionally thought that the article browser could benefit from a visual cue and a link set separating articles posted by each day (i.e. at midnight a large text divider indicates a new date, and a set of links to navigate to the previous and next midnight markers). Something along the lines of:

^ 12:00 AM FRIDAY - OCTOBER 28, 2005 ^
<< 12:00 AM SATURDAY - OCTOBER 29, 2005         12:00 AM THURSDAY - OCTOBER 27, 2005 >>

There have been many times that I have tried to go back through a few days of articles to find something, or to catch up on some breaking news event as they happened, or to simply read the articles from days I might have missed. A simple set of links like above would help more than the "Show more results ... " link at the bottom of every page.

209 posted on 10/28/2005 5:53:15 AM PDT by CellPhoneSurfer
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...

Forum changes tidbits.


210 posted on 10/28/2005 5:58:47 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: PatrickHenry

Damn. I'm going to have to write some SQL to re-orient my database. Currently, I have the thread number and forum stored separately, and the SQL adds all the other URL code automatically.


211 posted on 10/28/2005 6:06:57 AM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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bttt


212 posted on 10/28/2005 6:35:09 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: All
Bumping to the smilie-lovers of FR!Image hosted by Photobucket.com
213 posted on 10/28/2005 6:49:34 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Undocumented border patrol agent.)
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To: Bush_Democrat

Oh my..I just hurt myself laughing..


214 posted on 10/28/2005 7:03:35 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: John Robinson
I abhor puke-inducing cutesy smilies, avatars, and other images that add nothing to the discussion. That's just my personal opinion, however.

I agree! Also, I am still in dial-up Purgatory at home so minimizing extraneous graphics speeds up downloads quite a bit.

Thank you and God bless you for all your hard work here!

215 posted on 10/28/2005 7:04:42 AM PDT by RebelBanker (Captain's Log, cloggin' up the bowl as usual.)
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To: John Robinson

Thanks! I even understood that!


216 posted on 10/28/2005 7:18:13 AM PDT by Monkey Face (Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre?)
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To: John Robinson
Faster Downloads
Better Response Time

Mmmmmmmmmmmm!
Speed Good!

217 posted on 10/28/2005 7:59:03 AM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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Bump for later reference, when I ask myself "what happened to the forums?"


218 posted on 10/28/2005 8:09:51 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Psalm 73)
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To: John Robinson

Is there any chance at all at having 100 comments rather than 50? I find the majority of interesting threads hover at aroud 50-100 posts and it would make things easier for us dedicated skimmers.

I must admit to being a dedicated 250-at-a-time girl, but I will gladly give up what I must :)


219 posted on 10/28/2005 8:12:52 AM PDT by Eepsy
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To: John Robinson
>>The new links will be more descriptive, offering the date of the article and perhaps a meaningful filename<<

So, will someone be able to supply a wildcard and see all posts for a certain day? Could get nasty if not careful with this naming scheme.

220 posted on 10/28/2005 8:14:27 AM PDT by devane617
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