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Thomas Sowell: Rosa Parks and History
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/thomassowell/2005/10/27/173033.html ^

Posted on 10/27/2005 10:55:50 AM PDT by Shade2

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To: untenured
Yes. Excellent points.

I think Jim Crow was actually worse than slavery in a way.

21 posted on 10/27/2005 11:35:47 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: cgbg

You win the melodramatic post of the day award.


22 posted on 10/27/2005 11:35:49 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: wideawake

Sounds like a set up to me.


23 posted on 10/27/2005 11:37:07 AM PDT by garyhope
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To: Shade2
Thomas Sowell is usually great, but he has fallen sway to the MSM and the politically correct in his use of language.
These Jim Crow laws were the invention of only one political party, and we all know the name of that Party -- dare I say "Democrat Party". All white people in America did not create nor subscribe to these laws. These laws and social practices were not found in States where Republicans were in control. Only the people of Southern States under the control of the Democrat Party had Jim Crow laws. This point should have been made very clear, but unfortunately, if Sowell had made it clear, then I am sure many newspapers would not have printed the article. As Ann Coulter often says, "the elephant in the room' was ignored.
24 posted on 10/27/2005 11:38:11 AM PDT by Sipicaknobius (sipicaknobius)
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To: wideawake

Well, a "carefully managed, media-savvy campaign" sounds like a set-up to me. Not trying to argue, I just wanted to establish the facts. For that, I get called a crack smoker. Some people just want to talk sh*t.


25 posted on 10/27/2005 11:39:58 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: tallhappy

"I think Jim Crow was actually worse than slavery in a way."

I suppose it could be argued Jim Crow was worse in this way: Under slavery, the slave owner had an interest in his slave, if only for the slave's economic value. Under Jim Crow, neither the white population nor the governments in the Southern States had any interest in the African American population whatsoever.


26 posted on 10/27/2005 11:43:16 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: ozzymandus

Well that's you opinion. It has never been proven and she has always held that she didn't get on that bus to get arrested.


27 posted on 10/27/2005 11:46:33 AM PDT by Shade2
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To: ozzymandus
I seem to recall that the whole Rosa Parks thing was a set-up by some civil rights group. Anybody know anything about this?

She was set up by the communist party, and did not do it on the spur of the moment. Like Cindy planning to chain her self to a fence.

28 posted on 10/27/2005 11:48:29 AM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: Mrs Mark

So what if it was a set-up? Seems to me like there was good reason for it, if that in fact is what it was.


29 posted on 10/27/2005 11:53:07 AM PDT by gingerky
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To: garyhope; ozzymandus
A set-up is when you carefully manipulate circumstances in order to trick an unsuspecting person into crossing the line.

Rosa Parks didn't trick anyone. She knew she would be fined for not moving, but she didn't want to move. As a result, the Birmingham police did what they did routinely - followed the law and ticketed her.

She didn't trick the cops into doing something illegal.

30 posted on 10/27/2005 11:54:17 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Mrs Mark

Damn communists. Without them, blacks would still have to give up their seats to whites. And maybe we could have our own lunch counters, bathrooms, water fountains, universities...

/major pi$$ed off sarc


31 posted on 10/27/2005 11:54:29 AM PDT by dmz
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To: wideawake; mhking; rdb3

Good point.


32 posted on 10/27/2005 11:57:06 AM PDT by Shade2
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To: wideawake

Thank you for your post.


33 posted on 10/27/2005 11:59:38 AM PDT by gingerky
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To: Shade2

Great article.


34 posted on 10/27/2005 12:01:35 PM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality - Miami)
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To: Mrs Mark

I disagree with you that it was a "set up" by the Communist party. I think the event was pre-orchastrated for effect- but not by the Communists. I disagree that Civil rights groups of the 1960s were based in Communism. Today many of them are-but not in the 1960's.IMO-No matter- things in this country needed to be changed.


35 posted on 10/27/2005 12:02:24 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks)
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To: Shade2; Mrs Mark
It seems unlikely that she planned to get arrested that day, since she wasn't arrested. She was issued a desk appearance ticket for disorderly conduct.

The bus incident happened on December 1, 1955. She was not arrested for non-appearance and booked until mid-February 1956.

Also, she did not sit down in a "white seat." The bus she was on only had a moveable card that the bus driver would move from row to row - blacks were supposed to sit behind the card, wherever it happened to be placed.

When she got on the bus that day she sat behind the card, just as she was expected to do. What the bus driver did was move the card behind her, signalling that the white section had expanded and that she would have to get up and move to another seat.

If there had been one less random white passenger that day, she would have spent her entire bus ride in full compliance with Jim Crow.

36 posted on 10/27/2005 12:03:14 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Temple Owl
I never knew this

The incentives of the economic system and the incentives of the political system were not only different, they clashed. Private owners of streetcar, bus, and railroad companies in the South lobbied against the Jim Crow laws while these laws were being written, challenged them in the courts after the laws were passed, and then dragged their feet in enforcing those laws after they were upheld by the courts.

These tactics delayed the enforcement of Jim Crow seating laws for years in some places. Then company employees began to be arrested for not enforcing such laws and at least one president of a streetcar company was threatened with jail if he didn't comply.


37 posted on 10/27/2005 12:03:32 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: nmh
It makes sense that GOVERNMENT created racism.

And it continues to fight it by devising new schemes restoring racial preferences in public universities.

38 posted on 10/27/2005 12:05:10 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: cgbg
These days smokers aren't allowed on buses by law.

People who smoke are allowed on buses and are treated no differently than anyone else.

39 posted on 10/27/2005 12:06:50 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Shade2

Well, at least the blacks got to ride when the smoke had cleared; today's disenfranchised, cigarette smokers, got kicked clear off the bus. :>)


40 posted on 10/27/2005 12:07:07 PM PDT by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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