CNN: HARRIET MIERS HAS WITHDRAWN!

[Siena Dreaming]

there across billions of light years and we have not found him or heaven

You're looking into the atmosphere to find God? You think He might live in the sky? LOL. Good luck...you will need it.

[Txsleuth]

LOL----good comeback!!!

[Grampa Dave]

How many Red State $inators are up for re election in 2006?

Pressure on them may be the way to get a conservative justice approved by this Senate.

[firebrand]

Doesn't look as if this has been posted:

"The ongoing debate continues surrounding the attempt to once again criminalize abortion or to once and for all guarantee the freedom of the individual woman's right to decide for herself whether she will have an abortion," Miers said in a speech, according to today's New York Times.

She continued: "The underlying theme in most of these cases is the insistence of more self-determination. The more I think about these issues, the more self-determination makes the most sense. Legislating religion or moarality we gave up on a long time ago."

Also, "When science determines the facts, and decisions vary based upon religious belief, then government should not act."

Discovery of this speech caused Concerned Women for American to turn against her.

This was first in the Washington Post on Wednesday, so many have seen it already. It may have been posted in its Washington Post appearance, but for those who haven't seen it, rejoice that she is gone.

[ohioWfan]

Correction. It was listed as a quality.

There's a difference.

[thoughtomator]

You can't build a winning coalition without the conservative base, you can't hold onto the conservative base unless you serve our primary goal of correcting the courts, and you can't correct the courts with nominees like Harriet Miers.

If your coalition is so important then you should be first in line to see that conservatives get what we want here. But I think it is only really important to you when it is an excuse to betray a vital interest of a coalition partner.

[clawrence3]

Hpw about if every person on the loan committee called you privately though and said, we're not giving you the loan so you might as well withdraw the application?

[EternalVigilance]

And he'll fracture the party even more if, God forbid, he picks Janice Brown.

Whaaaat????

[adam_az]

"Telling of what? That character matters to me? That integrity and trust are qualities that I admire?"

Same here - I would admire a President who didn't send us a pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action, liberal nominee. If we had seen that, we would have trusted the choice - much different than trusting the man despite the evidence.

"Telling, indeed. I didn't see the President calling anyone vile names, and ridiculing anyone who didn't measure up to his standards."

He cravenly sent out Ed Gillespie and his wife to do that. It dodn't go over too well.

"I respect the President far more than I do the goons on this forum who have been downright evil in their attacks on this woman, and on the President."

I respect him when he makes the right decision, nominating a liberal and telling us to "trust him" was not the right decision"

"I don't trust the nasty extremist minority on this forum any more than I trust Howard Dean, John Kerry or Ted Kennedy."

Correction, the people on this forum who support Miers and her affirmative action, pro-abortion ideology, and calling their opponents names like "sexist" against all evidence, are in line with Dean, Kerry, and Kennedy. You're also in the minority - most FReepers ended up not supporting Miers.

"They're peas in the same pod."

Clearly not

[JeffAtlanta]

Miers was qualified as far as the Constitution required.

So you think we should go for the least possible qualifications only? There are constitutional qualifications and then there are realistic qualifications.

She lacked a judicial track record which is the only way to determine a person's judicial philosophy with any degree of confidence. Without a track record, it's just a shot in the dark.

[ohioWfan]

I read a number of posts where she, herself, and her faith were made fun of.

[GOPologist]

"Stevens is 83 and can't last forever."

Please, don't pass this around, for I am 83 and I thought I am going to live forever.

[Republic of Texas]

When the left attacks, they look vicious to those in the middle. Those folks, didn't even pay attention to this nomination until today. The volume has to be very high to get their attention. The dems will get that loud, and look extraordinarily bad in doing so.

[Theodore R.]

I think you mean that Alberto Gonzales will be no more supported by conservatives than was Miss Miers. I do think that there is a good chance that Gonzales will be selected in retribution by GWB.

[Warren_Piece]

How is he not a zealot? He seems to be saying that unquestioning belief in a Bronze Age religion (Updated in the Iron Age by a charismatic leader) is a qualification for the highest court in the land. Maybe you believe that there is a grandfatherly old gentleman who lives in the sky in a place called "Heaven" and has magical powers, but I don't. What percentage of people scoring two standard deviations above the mean in standardized IQ tests share his and Miers belief system?

Just Damn.

[JeffAtlanta]

Hpw about if every person on the loan committee called you privately though and said, we're not giving you the loan so you might as well withdraw the application?

Is that what happened? What really happened is that the person's family and friends convinced them that applying for the loan was a bad idea and should be withdrawn.

[clawrence3]

If you had been pulling the trigger, I would agree with your statement.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

If the Democrats really wanted to lock up this seat they would nominate Stenny Hoyer.

[steveegg]

Quick summary of the 34 nominations (prior to Miers) that failed at one point or another -

• 5 nominated, not confirmed on the initial nomination, but confirmed on a renomination -
  • William Paterson, nominated by George Washington, withdrawn briefly because he was a Senator at the time Congress had created the Associate Justice position and that term was not yet expired (though he was no longer a member of the Senate at that point), then renominated and confirmed at the beginning of the following Congress a few days later.
  • Roger B. Taney, nominated twice by Andrew Jackson, the first to Associate Justice waspostponed indefinitely by the Senate, the second was for Chief Justice. If that name doesn't sound familiar, it should; he was the author of the Dred Scott decision.
  • Stanley Matthews, nominated first by Rutheford B. Hayed and later by James A. Garfield. The first nomination was never reported out of committee, and he was confirmed on the renomination by 1 vote.
  • Pierce Butler, nominated twice by Warren G. Harding. The first nomination was blocked during the third session of the 67th Congress, but he got through during the 4th.
  • Marshall Harlan II, nominated twice by Dwight D. Eisenhower. He was nominated late in the 83rd Congress, and since his nomination was still in committee when the Senate adjourned, he had to be renominated at the beginning of the 84th.
• 4 rejected more than once -
  • John C. Spencer and Reuben H. Walworth were part of a shell game played by John Tyler. Spencer was nominated and rejected, replaced by Walworth, the Senate tabled Walworth's nomination, and then things got real fun. On June 17, 1844, the last day of that particular congressional session, Walworth was withdrawn and Spencer was renominated. Unable to gain unanamous consent for the Spencer nomination to be acted upon, Spencer was withdrawn and Walworth was renominated. Walworth was again renominated in the following session, tabled, and withdrawn, making him the only 3-time loser.
  • Edward King was also one of those nominated twice by Tyler during the same two congressional sessions. He was tabled both times and ultimately withdrawn.
  • William B. Hornblower was nominated in successive sessions by Grover Cleveland. The first nomination never made it out of committee, and he was rejected the second time around.
• John Catron, nominated by Andrew Johnson, fell victim to legislation to decrease the size of the Supreme Court through attrition.
• The others - John Rutledge, Alexander Wolcott, John J. Crittenden, John M. Read, George W. Woodward, Edward A. Bradford, George E. Badger, William C. Micou, Jeremiah S. Black, Ebenezer R. Hoar, George H. Williams, Caleb Cushing,Wheeler H. Peckham, John J. Parker, Abe Fortas, Homer Thornberry, Clement F. Haynsworth Jr., G. Harrold Carswell, and Robert H. Bork.

What version of Acrobat Reader do you have?

[TAdams8591]

"I'm referring to extremists who hate the President."

There are few extremists on this board who hate the president. Most of them are long gone and you know it.

Thus, who else could you possibly be referring to other than mainstream conservatives, many of whom most recently opposed this president on the Miers nomination?