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Democrat Federal Employee Candidate Openly Defies The Hatch Act
Schumaker For Delegate ^

Posted on 10/26/2005 7:22:29 AM PDT by chambley1

Schumaker is allegedly violating the federal Hatch Act, limiting political activity by federal employees by running as a Democrat in a partisan election.

A U.S. Postal employee can only run in a partisan election as an Independent in a designated community such as Prince William County and Manassas. Moreover, as an Independent, the candidate cannot solicit endorsements or contributions from either political party.

Reference:

http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_05/5cfr733_05.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: hatchact
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1 posted on 10/26/2005 7:22:30 AM PDT by chambley1
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To: chambley1
Good. The law doesn't sound constitutional to me, so I hope he's able to raise hell over it. Getting it struck down would be nice.
2 posted on 10/26/2005 7:24:43 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: inquest

That act also keeps the possibility of military coups down.

Don't forget, generals (active duty) are also federal employees.

NO active duty military may run for any elected office.


3 posted on 10/26/2005 7:27:53 AM PDT by soltice
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To: inquest
The law doesn't sound constitutional to me

I thought the intent of the law was to prevent civil servants from taking the day off or working while on the job in support of political candidates. Can you imagine if the entire CIA or State Department decided to work against the White House in an election?....What? Oh, nevermind.

4 posted on 10/26/2005 7:28:32 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: chambley1

A lady in working at the Navy Base in Panama City, FL was fired back in '92 for just WORKING as a volunteer (Perot) ............


5 posted on 10/26/2005 7:29:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (In life, you don't get what you deserve. You get what you settle for...........)
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To: inquest

Inquest, you know damned well that the result of his defiance will simply be the precedent that only Democrats can run for public office while being employwd by the federal government.

(Mierspeak)
See, a LIBERAL running for public office isn't creating a conflict of interest; he's just an expert at knowing how to fix Big Government. A CONSERVATIVE threatens to destroy big government, so he essentially becomes an expert lobbyist within the halls of government; a Trojan, if you would. So, Schumaker isn't VIOLATING the law, he's just re-interpreting the law as a living document so it serves the purpose to which it was originally created: Big Government showering its love and concern over all her children. (/Miersspeak)


6 posted on 10/26/2005 7:31:13 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Red Badger

The law has changed since then. It used to be that no federal employee could take part in any political activity. Now, they are free to do so on their own time. However, they are forbidden from running for certain offices, and as the piece notes, running as members of a party. They are free to resign and run if they wish.


7 posted on 10/26/2005 7:34:40 AM PDT by Sthitch
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To: Sthitch

The law will probably not pass Constitutional muster as regards civil service employees' choice of political party affiliation........


8 posted on 10/26/2005 7:38:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (In life, you don't get what you deserve. You get what you settle for...........)
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To: chambley1

Isn't putting "opely" and "democrat" together an oxymoron?


9 posted on 10/26/2005 7:38:39 AM PDT by kerryusama04 (The UN wants our guns so they can rape our children and steal our money)
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To: Red Badger

They are allowed to join a political party, they can be active in the party (just not at work), and they can take time off to engage in political activity (a big change from the previous law), but they are not allowed to run for office as a member of the party while still in the employ of the federal government. It has stood a number of constitutional tests.


10 posted on 10/26/2005 7:51:43 AM PDT by Sthitch
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To: soltice
That act also keeps the possibility of military coups down.

This guy is not military, and he's running for a local office. On top of that, the law isn't a blanket provision against running for office, but against running as anything other than an independent. How that's supposed to prevent military coups, I'd be at a loss to say.

11 posted on 10/26/2005 7:52:29 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: rhombus
Can you imagine if the entire CIA or State Department decided to work against the White House in an election?

I imagine they'd get fired. That should be an administrative decision. But for the law to prohibit such political activity crosses the line.

12 posted on 10/26/2005 7:54:12 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: Sthitch

Aren't the CONGRESS and EXECUTIVE Branch fed employees? Isn't this "Do as I say, not as I do"?.........If the law EXCLUDES these people, then I believe it's un-constitutional.......


13 posted on 10/26/2005 7:57:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (In life, you don't get what you deserve. You get what you settle for...........)
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To: inquest
But for the law to prohibit such political activity crosses the line.

Using Government time and resources??? Are you kidding?

14 posted on 10/26/2005 7:58:43 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: dangus
Inquest, you know damned well that the result of his defiance will simply be the precedent that only Democrats can run for public office while being employwd by the federal government.

Not true at all. What Democrats succeed in doing is pretending that they're following the law when in fact they're not. That's how various tax-exempt groups manage to maintain their "nonpartisan" status despite being clearly allies of the left. But when someone openly challenges the law, and succeeds, there'd be no possible way for him to make it so that only people of his political persuasion would be able to benefit from that. It would necessarily be open to everyone. Conservatives are being very short-sighted by being opposed to this just because it's a Democrat pushing it. If he succeeds, this could easily be a wedge issue for pushing for more drastic cutbacks in federal control over election campaigns.

15 posted on 10/26/2005 7:59:51 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: rhombus
Where did the article say he was using government time and resources?
16 posted on 10/26/2005 8:00:32 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: inquest
Let's go back to my original post: "I thought the intent of the law was to prevent civil servants from taking the day off or working while on the job in support of political candidates."

That was my only point. Now I do think they should be able to "take the day off" but I thought the original intent of the Hatch Act was to prevent people while employed and on the job from working for political candidates. If this guy isn't doing this, I gots no problem with him being politically active.

17 posted on 10/26/2005 8:04:07 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: chambley1

My ex-wife lost her federally subsidized state job in PA when she ran for school board. By the time somebody mentioned it to her it was too late to get her name off the ballet.


18 posted on 10/26/2005 8:04:27 AM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: Sthitch
They are free to resign and run if they wish.

Having to destroy yourself financially before running in a partisan election is NOT freedom.

19 posted on 10/26/2005 8:07:51 AM PDT by Lester Moore (islam's allah is Satan and is NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.)
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To: soltice

Hmm...a number have, though.


20 posted on 10/26/2005 8:08:15 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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