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Conservative Crackup; How the neocons have developed a political exit strategy
newsweek ^ | Oct 22 05 | Howard Fineman

Posted on 10/25/2005 9:12:26 PM PDT by churchillbuff

President George W. Bush may have no military exit strategy for Iraq, but the “neocons” who convinced him to go to war there have developed one of their own—a political one: Blame the Administration. Their neo-Wilsonian theory is correct, they insist, but the execution was botched by a Bush team that has turned out to be incompetent, crony-filled, corrupt, unimaginative and weak over a wide range of issues.

The flight of the neocons—just read a recent Weekly Standard to see what I am talking about —is one of only many indications that the long-predicted “conservative crackup” is at hand.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: bushhatred; fineman; meirs; neocons; recyclednews; wardisatitagain
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He has a point. Billy Kristol's stock-in-trade is to blame Bush for not implementing Kristol's neoconservative vision with the required finesse.

That way, Kristol hopes, Kristol won't get blamed for the mess in Iraq, even though Kristol's crowd said victory would be easy and we would find caches of WMDs

1 posted on 10/25/2005 9:12:26 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

The world according to Howard Fineman.


2 posted on 10/25/2005 9:13:47 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: churchillbuff

The only point Howie has is on the top of his head.


3 posted on 10/25/2005 9:16:26 PM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel (Theyre digging through all of your files, stealing back your best ideas.)
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To: churchillbuff

Kristol is a weasel and who cares what he says


4 posted on 10/25/2005 9:17:42 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: bnelson44
Regurgitated at that
5 posted on 10/25/2005 9:17:42 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: churchillbuff

NewsWEAK strikes again.


6 posted on 10/25/2005 9:18:32 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Mo1

Kristol is a Mole, always has been, Fineman is an overly emotional wimp


7 posted on 10/25/2005 9:18:49 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: churchillbuff

You wrote:

"..That way, Kristol hopes, Kristol won't get blamed for the mess in Iraq, even though Kristol's crowd said victory would be easy and we would find caches of WMDs"

I guess the New York Times and Washington Post crowd is a bunch of Neo-Cons as well...because after 911 they were gunning for Saddam's head too!! Don't be a tool. (wink)

I know what u mean about Krystal...but don't bite the bait being throw over in bloody waters by the left in this country..swim deeper....lol


8 posted on 10/25/2005 9:19:52 PM PDT by penelopesire
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To: churchillbuff

As long as the terrorists are willing to show up in Iraq and fight there, we don't need an exit strategy.


9 posted on 10/25/2005 9:20:40 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Flea, feather, bird, egg, nest, twig, branch, limb, tree, and the bog down in the valley - o.)
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To: SittinYonder

BINGO, so very true


10 posted on 10/25/2005 9:23:27 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: MJY1288

Kristol got beat up on the playground when he was little, and now he wants to be invited back out to restaurants again with his "smart" pals. What has he ever done in life?


11 posted on 10/25/2005 9:25:23 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet (If not now, when?)
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Nope..Fineman is a TOOL!! I once had a live online debate with him. It was brief..but he was stumbling out of the 'door' when I left him looking all stuck on stupid...lol!! My personal best in a brush with 'NOT SO GREAT..NESS"...lol


12 posted on 10/25/2005 9:25:40 PM PDT by penelopesire
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As reported in our local newspaper, this is what a national guardsman now deployed to Iraq told his mother prior to leaving:

"Mom, no matter what happens, this is something that has to be done. Remember I volunteered to be in the National Guard, nobody made me. This is my job, this is my choice, because it’s something that has to be done for our country. We all feel that way or we wouldn’t be here saying goodbye to our families now. It can be fought there, or here. I choose to fight there."


13 posted on 10/25/2005 9:26:42 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Flea, feather, bird, egg, nest, twig, branch, limb, tree, and the bog down in the valley - o.)
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"What has he ever done in life?"

Turned on everyone he has ever disagreed with, INCLUDING Ronald Reagan

14 posted on 10/25/2005 9:27:17 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: churchillbuff
Who's "Kristol's crowd"? Everyone I know that fully supports this war would never have suggested such things.

As for victory being "easy", there is no such thing in war. But it most likely would have been achieved by now if political correctness wasn't infused into the way it has been fought to assuage the naysayers, such as yourself.

And my guess is that you don't just throw away WMDs in the trash and that there is a process to dismantling them, no? If that is the case, where is the evidence that they were truly destroyed considering the fact that we know they existed (we sold them to him)? Why wouldn't Saddam comply if he knew he needed the proof to avoid war? And are you suggesting that weapons could never be smuggled?
15 posted on 10/25/2005 9:28:00 PM PDT by Time4Atlas2Shrug (Use them bootstraps, cowboy.)
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To: SittinYonder
God Bless our Troops, I support them every way I can, and I have been all of my life, I was denied the privilege of serving this great Nation for being partially deaf in one ear, so I do my part by supporting them anyway I can
16 posted on 10/25/2005 9:31:06 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: Time4Atlas2Shrug

Try not to confuse the Lad, he is limited to the DNC talking points


17 posted on 10/25/2005 9:32:59 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: Time4Atlas2Shrug

Good Post! by the way :-)


18 posted on 10/25/2005 9:33:26 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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As reported in our local newspaper, this is what a national guardsman now deployed to Iraq told his mother prior to leaving: "Mom, no matter what happens, this is something that has to be done. Remember I volunteered to be in the National Guard, nobody made me."""

HE's a hero. I don't happen to agree with the policy that sent him to Iraq, but he's doing his duty and he's a patriot. I support him, along with all our marvelous troops.

19 posted on 10/25/2005 9:35:30 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: MJY1288

Thank you. :)


20 posted on 10/25/2005 9:36:52 PM PDT by Time4Atlas2Shrug (Use them bootstraps, cowboy.)
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