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CA: Select Hispanic audience questions Schwarzenegger on immigration (on Univision)
ap on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 10/25/05 | Tom Chorneau - ap

Posted on 10/25/2005 6:31:56 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 10/25/2005 6:31:57 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

I'll bet this Salazar gets a ton of free coverage for his agenda in the MSM. All the pro-illegal immigrant and immigrant rights groups do. God forbid someone else have a voice.


2 posted on 10/25/2005 6:44:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: NormsRevenge
Based on this report I have praise for Schwarzenegger.

It took courage to face a culturally biased audience and defend the unpopular positions he espoused.

His reported criticism of current federal posturing and of Reagan's misguided policy was also surprising in the face of the constant pressure Schwarzenegger must receive from the Republican Party to downplay the role they have played in the current crisis.

3 posted on 10/25/2005 6:52:02 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: NormsRevenge
"I think this was a way to reintroduce him to the Latino voters that he knows he will need next year," said political expert Jaime Regalado, referring to Schwarzenegger's 2006 re-election bid.

I don't think he gives a hoot what any faction thinks about him. Schwarzenegger's leading the way he represented himself while campaigning and isn't disregarding the difference between legal and illegal immigration. This may be a windfall, as he certaintly has nothing to gain from the contributions of the neo-slavers who seek his favor.

4 posted on 10/25/2005 6:54:04 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: NormsRevenge

If Univision is allowed broadcast over the public airways in Spanish, then why is it mandatory that children pass Englsh classes in order to gradate from public schools?

Not to speak out against English literature, just wondering why the inconsistency ?


5 posted on 10/25/2005 6:58:15 PM PDT by seastay
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You can broadcast in Pig Latin if you can find a station willing to carry it.

I don't think that's an issue.

Incidentally, Perenchio makes contributions to pretty much every politician who breathes. As I recall, he gave $100k to both Arnold and Gray Davis' people for the recall election.

D


6 posted on 10/25/2005 7:13:21 PM PDT by daviddennis (;)
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To: Amerigomag
Based on this report I have praise for Schwarzenegger.

Me too! But which is the truth? He has been quoted for years, as recently as last month, as supporting some sort of guest worker or amnesty program. This is the first time I've seen him say he would oppose it.

[Los Angeles Times, September 24, 2005: "Schwarzenegger also said Friday that he supports a proposal by President Bush to create a guest worker program that would temporarily legalize millions of illegal workers."]

7 posted on 10/25/2005 7:24:32 PM PDT by calcowgirl (CA Special Election: Yes, Yes, Yes, No, No, No, No, No!)
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Based on this report.

I'll try to catch the show on Saturday and see whether Chorneau's excerpted quotes match the tone of the discussions.

8 posted on 10/25/2005 7:50:10 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: NormsRevenge
He praised the Minutemen, a vigilante group of volunteers that began patrolling the border in Arizona last spring...

This was written by Tom Chorneau, a vigilante Associated Press Writer.

9 posted on 10/25/2005 7:53:22 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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Univision's chairman, Jerry Perenchio, is one of the governor's largest campaign supporters, having donated more than $3 million to Schwarzenegger campaign committees since he took office two years ago.

Money talks, political hacks listen.

10 posted on 10/25/2005 8:01:21 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: judgeandjury
This was written by Tom Chorneau, a vigilante Associated Press Writer.

Chorneau does have a recent history of antagonizing Schwarzenegger's policies and the use of quotes at the end of the sentences you posted:

" ...and criticized as divisive a billboard by a Los Angeles Spanish-language television show that advertised its market as "Los Angeles, Mexico."

from this piece does appear to be an attempt by Chorneau to confuse Chorneau's "background" comments as part of Schwarzenegger's actual presentation on the show.

11 posted on 10/25/2005 8:16:44 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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The governor also repeated his defense of his veto of a bill that would have provided driver's licenses for illegal immigrants. He said that issue is under federal jurisdiction because of homeland security requirements that have yet to be implemented at the state level.

This is a cop-out. The federal requirements passed AFTER SB60 was rescinded. Schwarzenegger signed the rescission of SB60 because without that promise he wouldn't have been elected in the recall.

12 posted on 10/25/2005 8:17:51 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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"You can broadcast in Pig Latin if you can find a station willing to carry it."

Laugh, well they might as well broadcast in pig Latin, since US citizens cannot understand spanish;

but the problem with learning pig latin, Kids can’t be dismissed from English class to study pig Latin even if the English class is full of kids who don’t speak English and even if being in that class would be less as beneficial than learning pig Latin!

Somewhere in the FCC Charter, they are to over see public airwaves to benefit the citizens of this country, but how is it that broadcasting in Spanish serves this purpose, when the official language is English which is mandated for all US citizens to master by mandatory attendance in public school English classes?

No it is not an issue that keeps people awake at night, but it is an ironic conflict of interest between government agencies, the FCC and dept of education...


13 posted on 10/25/2005 8:19:51 PM PDT by seastay
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To: Amerigomag

Arnold has always cut the line at any kind of enforcement or deportation of those currently in the state. While he wants to have the inflow stopped ("close the border") and has criticized the federal government for not enforcing the borders, he has always said that he wants to find a way for all those illegals currently here to remain here. That LA Times quote was just one of many.

If he has changed his tune, I'm all for it. One cannot avoid noticing the similarity to Pete Wilson's actions before his reelection. Deja vu?


14 posted on 10/25/2005 8:52:19 PM PDT by calcowgirl (CA Special Election: Yes, Yes, Yes, No, No, No, No, No!)
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To: Amerigomag
Well, I wasn't reading the posted article closely enough. I totally missed this part. I guess there is no changing of tune:
Schwarzenegger also said he favors a guest-worker program in which immigrant laborers could obtain work permits.

"Look, I'm an immigrant, so I know what it is like to dream about coming to America and then to get here and be able to make your dreams a reality," the governor said. "Of course, there are millions of people who want to come here. Let's help them, let's find a legal way to do it."


15 posted on 10/25/2005 11:49:03 PM PDT by calcowgirl (CA Special Election: Yes, Yes, Yes, No, No, No, No, No!)
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To: NormsRevenge
"It is nothing more than one of his biggest contributors providing him the opportunity to deliver his message on his terms."

Have your contributors do the same for you. Sheesh!

16 posted on 10/25/2005 11:56:47 PM PDT by FOG724 (http://gravenimagemusic.com/)
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To: calcowgirl

"as supporting some sort of guest worker or amnesty program"

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The problem is that you and many others are unable to tell the difference between amnesty and a guest worker program. Arnold always made his position very clear, he reiterated it here and he does understand that there IS a difference:


"Schwarzenegger said he opposes amnesty for illegal immigrants, criticized the federal government for failing to secure the borders and defended his veto of a bill that would have granted driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.

The governor said an amnesty program similar to the one the federal government undertook in the late 1980s would be ill-advised today.

"It just didn't work," Schwarzenegger said. "It backfired big-time. It sent the wrong message: You come here illegally, and then we go and give you amnesty. So then, the next million come and they say, 'Hey, we get amnesty, this is really terrific.'"

Schwarzenegger also said he favors a guest-worker program in which immigrant laborers could obtain work permits."


17 posted on 10/25/2005 11:59:29 PM PDT by FairOpinion (CA Props: Vote for Reform: YES on 73-78, NO on 79 & 80, NO on Y)
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The problem is that you and many others are unable to tell the difference between amnesty and a guest worker program

Wrong. The problem is that you didn't read/understand what I wrote instead going into super-defense-attack mode. Read it again. I said "OR"--and I did NOT say they were the same. That would depend on the specific provisions of the guest worker program and whether it pardoned lawbreaking, or not.

However, anyone who is currently breaking the laws, and is then given a pass and not prosecuted for such violations, is indeed being given "amnesty", imo. I have no idea what Arnold's position is specifically on this as he rarely gives any details on anything, instead speaking in generalities and offering conflicting thoughts (hence I said "some sort of guest worker or amnesty program").

Main Entry: am·nes·ty 
Pronunciation: 'am-n&-stE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
Etymology: Greek amnEstia forgetfulness, from amnEstos
forgotten, from a- + mnasthai to remember -- more at MIND
: the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is
 granted to a large group of individuals
- amnesty transitive verb 

18 posted on 10/26/2005 12:35:57 AM PDT by calcowgirl (CA Special Election: Yes, Yes, Yes, No, No, No, No, No!)
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Schwarzenegger also said he favors a guest-worker program in which immigrant laborers could obtain work permits.

Did you notice what nonsense that sentence is? He's saying that immigrants are laborers who need work permits so they can become guest workers. Immigrants do not need work permits, they may or may not be laborers. and since immigrants are here legally, they have no need for a guest worker program, either. Arnold, they're called illegal aliens for a reason!

Then there's this: "Of course, there are millions of people who want to come here. Let's help them, let's find a legal way to do it."

There already is a legal way to do it and thousands do it every year. He talks about "people who want to come here" as if they (illegal aliens) aren't here already.

He's correct when he says that an amnesty wouldn't work and that it would be wrong to send the message that we'll reward someone for being here illegally. Unfortunately, he follows that up by saying that he "favors a guest-worker program" which is simply another way of rewarding people for being here illegally.

OK, that's my mini-rant for today!

19 posted on 10/26/2005 6:49:43 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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20 posted on 10/26/2005 9:42:43 AM PDT by gubamyster
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