Wolfowitz Calls For End To Farm Subsidies(what's so free about "free trade?")

Free Internet Press ^ | October 24, 2005 | Intellpuke

[durasell]

About time someone noticed the emperor wasn't wearing any clothes. Farm subsidies are socialism and wrong.


Yes, but eliminating subsidies is Marxist and also wrong.

(At least according to some people)

[hedgetrimmer]

Instead of trading with someone because they have something we want, we are forced to trade with them in order to reduce their poverty? You say "free trade" is "poverty reduction" and "free traders" have set the system up so the global socialist WTO picks which country will get to have its poverty reduced by brokering the agreements.

There doesn't appear to be anything "free" about "free trade", since citizens have no say, and American taxpayers foot the bill for the World Bank and the WTO-- the name "free trade" is such a phony construct. But I have to say you've given us all a great definition for "free trade", global socialist brokered "poverty reduction". Thanks.

[hedgetrimmer]

Again the topic is the marxist rhetoric of the "free traders".

[hedgetrimmer]

Is food a necessity or a luxury for individuals? For a nation?

[Toddsterpatriot]

Instead of trading with someone because they have something we want, we are forced to trade with them in order to reduce their poverty?

This from someone who thinks it's okay to force Americans to buy sugar from high cost American producers to reduce their poverty.

Consistency was never your strong suit, was it?

[durasell]

Is food a necessity or a luxury for individuals?

Depends where you shop.

[hedgetrimmer]

You really should stop making personal comments. It damages credibility, especially since you really know nothing about the people you are commenting on.

[hedgetrimmer]

favors ever larger government interference in the economy

It is you "free traders" who have taken money from the American people to create a plethora of international buracracies and unconstiutional public/private partnerships. The "free trader" whitehouse has spent more money on entitlements global and domestic, than any other adminstration. Why don't you go after the administration that is abusing the taxpayer?

[headsonpikes]

After this exchange, I am left in the position of merely taking consolation in your tagline:

Sorel: "Nothing, [except ...] gives greater pleasure, than being misunderstood by blunderheads."

[hedgetrimmer]

Yet you never address the fundamental issue of a global socialist organization determining who gets to trade gold based on their level of poverty.

[Seamoth]

Farmers are the biggest welfare queens in this country.

I'd like to be able to purchase something that has real sugar and real lard/butter in it for a change.

[hedgetrimmer]

Well that was edifying.

[1rudeboy]

To paraphrase one of resident trade "experts" on this very thread, "You are really unbelievable. A real conservative would know about the policies he is attacking--."

[1rudeboy]

. . . one of our resident "experts' . . . .

[hedgetrimmer]

I am sure everyone on the forum would like to hear your explanation of Amber boxes. Be generous and explain.

[expat_panama]

trade with them in order to reduce their poverty?

Most people exchange their time for money and vice versa in order to reduce their own poverty and I see this as a good way of doing things.  Most people also exercise their power I to make sure their government does what they want, and the more people choose to do without government help, the richer they get.

Is this something we really disagree on?

[hedgetrimmer]

the biggest welfare queens in this country.

are the employers who use illegal alien labor, who are here courtesy of our "free trader" white house. If you want to get into a discussion about how much illegal aliens cost the taxpayer and society, I would be happy to do so on another thread or in freepmail. However, the discussion is about why "free traders" are using marxist rhetoric to coerce Americans into ponying up for their global welfare scheme. I am really more interested in your thoughts on that.

[Seamoth]

I think you should move to the EU, where they follow the protectionist economic model to their great success.

[durasell]

On general principle, I refuse to spend $4.00 for a tomato or $100 for a pair of sneakers.