Good memory. I did coin that phrase.
And building upon that, my mind is really spinning. Sometimes it all really does come together. I'll elaborate with you in private about that.
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Posted on 10/24/2005 7:59:14 PM PDT by smoothsailing
actually, they'd be Nietzscheo-Marxists. these dipwads STILL believe in the communist Utopia, and are anti-meritocratic - both rather divergent from Nietzschean philosophy
AMEN! I call her a Marxist every chance I get, because she is, as is her "husband."
this is important
carry-okie has some links downthread (from #1, not this ping) to supplemental historical analyses which are quite disturbing.
Moral Absolutes Ping.
I am too tired to read this - just sneaking on to FR for a minute - but I know this is a good read and relevant to the purpose of this pinglist! Will read it tomorrow and I hope to also read your comments!
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Don't forget the Fabian Society.
who?
(remember: if it happened after 1450 or so, I didn't study it)
I should have pung you in the general ping a moment ago. sorry.
I remember reading this in a pro-gun book published by the NRA that was written in the late 1960's on the fallicies of gun control and how gun control falls into the communist's plots. In 1919, British intelligence found their plans in a cell in occupied Germany and it went from there.
BTW, a lot of people misunderstand Marx's dictum on religion. It was one of the vestiges of society that he would have torn down almost regretfully albeit in his opinion necessarily. What he wrote in whole was: "Religious suffering is at one and the same time the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people." (Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right)
My personal guess is that Marx would have considered the members of the Frankfurt School to be heretics and major obstructions to the eventual victory of socialism, as in fact they may be. But they were right about the proletariat - it did turn into the bourgeoisie, a thing neo-Marxists have never really forgiven it for. They're stuck finding oppressed classes through which to project a revolution that will never happen. That doesn't mean they can't hurt people in the meantime.
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It's the spelling that gets me. I do it different every time.
The Frankfurt School did not settle in the US but fled Germany in the mid 1930's because they were on Hitlers hit list.
Max Horkheimer the leader of the Frankfurt School was the first to leave and went to New York and was employed by OSS army intelligence where he gave the US govt valuable intelligence on prominent Nazis and German Stalinist operatives.
The FS was equally under the sights of Hitler and Stalin because they were Hegelian Marxists.
Georg Lucacs is an example of the suspicion that Stalin had of the FS school in the mid thirties. Lucacs was ordered to Moscow to account on a charge of Revisionism for some of his ideas published in the Theory of the Novel and the Historical Novel.
He barely talked his way out of a firing squad.
As far as their present influence the FS ceased to fashionable among the western left in the early eighties. They are most definitely not responsible for the emergence of multiculturalism which is a product of French Post Modernist epistemological scepticism.
Read the History of the Frankfurt School
http://home.cwru.edu/~ngb2/Pages/Back_Hist.html
ah. from the name, I figured it was a buggery appreciation group.
seems i was not far wrong.
ROFLMAO.
If you had bothered to consider the links I posted you would know that I am well aware of that. Their influence on the Spartakusbund had riled not a few Germans for having turned Berlin into the equivalent of modern San Francisco. It scared the hell out of German conservatives, many of whom fell into Hitler's arms in the election of 1932.
As far as their present influence the FS ceased to fashionable among the western left in the early eighties.
The standards they set as adopted widely in the '60s and '70 live on. Marcuse is still called the "Father of the New Left."
They are most definitely not responsible for the emergence of multiculturalism which is a product of French Post Modernist epistemological scepticism.
I believe it was someone else who said that they were responsible for multiculturalism.
Good memory. I did coin that phrase.
And building upon that, my mind is really spinning. Sometimes it all really does come together. I'll elaborate with you in private about that.
If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.
It's what I like to call, "indentured constituency."
Crime has its coiterie of unionized counselors, prison guards, and LEOs. Social Security did the same thing to yet another segment. Environmentalism breeds dependent bureaucrats. So it goes.
Nah, I say we're way beyond that. Multiculturalism is to Marxist thought as the debris inside the sarcophagus is to Chernobyl.
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