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To: nj26; frankjr

it looks like they were holding this leak until this week. all the chatter last week about the "links to Cheney" - this must have been the basis for them.

get ready for a rough week.


5 posted on 10/24/2005 6:38:04 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

So Tenent put Ms Plame's name in play?


7 posted on 10/24/2005 6:39:46 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (It is easy to call for a pi$$ing contest when you aren't going to be in the line of fire.)
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To: oceanview

On your ocean, maybe, not mine.


8 posted on 10/24/2005 6:39:50 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: oceanview
get ready for a rough week.

I don't believe Cheney ever testified before the grand jury.
Since we know that there was no crime committed in the first place, unless Cheney committed some violation of process with Fitzgerald, then there is nothing he can be charged with.
14 posted on 10/24/2005 6:42:59 PM PDT by counterpunch (- SCOTUS interruptus - withdraw Miers before she blows it -)
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To: oceanview
It looks like Dick Cheney's vice presidency will not survive the year; he shall go to jail to do hard labor for a minimum of five years and forever shall he be denied any medical care whatsoever.

The question: if Bush stands still, who will he select for the office of the vice-presidency? (Remember, the Senate confirmation requires 61 affirmative votes.) And if not, how would Speaker Hastert do as President with Democrats in control of both houses of Congress? Or will he, too, fall? And then, who becomes vice president?
20 posted on 10/24/2005 6:45:48 PM PDT by dufekin (US Senate: the only place where the majority [44 D] comprises fewer than the minority [55 R])
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To: oceanview; norton; the Real fifi; Shermy; frankjr
The lawyer involved with the leak is Bob Bennett. What is this "Under cover Status" BS again?


"Some lawyers in the case have said Mr. Fitzgerald may face obstacles in bringing a false statement charge against Mr. Libby. They said it could be difficult to prove that he intentionally sought to mislead the grand jury. Lawyers involved in the case said they have no indication that Mr. Fitzgerald is considering charging Mr. Cheney with wrongdoing." I thought George Tenet was before the GJ. The theory is that Tenet was Novak's source, and once Tenet confessed Novak was never summoned.

But any effort by Mr. Libby to steer investigators away from his conversation with Mr. Cheney could be considered by Patrick J. Fitzgerald.

Not so. The US Supreme court ruled that "Lying" to investigators was not obstruction of Justice, unless Libby was told that his evidence could be presented before a GJ.

It appears that that Cheney broke no law, duh!
25 posted on 10/24/2005 6:47:54 PM PDT by Perdogg ("Facts are stupid things." - President Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: oceanview; Perdogg

"get ready for a rough week."

Why? I wasn't in the meeting with Cheney!!

The notes themselves are no big deal if they say Wilson went to Niger and his wife works at the CIA. Now if they say something like "Wilson discovered our forgeries, we need to out his undercover wife and put her life in jeopardy", then that would be more of a problem.

If they are Libby's notes, I am surprised he did not know about them when he testified since he and his attorney have a copy of everything turned over. If Libby forgot about the meeting, big deal. Fitz has to prove that Libby lied about it. And if he can prove it then Libby has a problem (as well he should).

Again, this story show no evidence of an underlying crime (Intel Identity protection act or Espionage). If Fitz wants to get Libby on a perjury charge and feels he has the evidence to prove it, then go for it. Libby can cop a plea or fight it in court. Either way, Bush will pardon him by Jan 2009.

Wilson started all of this when he acted as the source for a Kristof article in May 2003 (and then Pincus in June 2003). Wilson is a proven liar. Do I approve of anyone lying in front of the GJ? No. Do I think Wilson is the one that should be indicted more than anyone else? Yes.


Side note: this story does not even touch Rove. Any thing less than an indictment against Rove and the lefties will go crazy.


104 posted on 10/24/2005 7:08:04 PM PDT by frankjr
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