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W pals bushwhack CIA leak prosecutor
New York Dailiy News ^ | Oct 24 05 | THOMAS M. DeFRANK and MICHAEL McAULIFF

Posted on 10/24/2005 1:16:10 PM PDT by churchillbuff

As the White House and Republicans brace for possible indictments in the CIA leak probe, defenders have launched a not-so-subtle campaign against the prosecutor handling the case. "He's a vile, detestable, moralistic person with no heart and no conscience who believes he's been tapped by God to do very important things," one White House ally said, referring to special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald.

Fitzgerald was tapped nearly two years ago to find out whether anyone in the White House broke a federal law by blowing the cover of CIA operative Valerie Plame after her husband, Joseph Wilson, debunked administration claims about Saddam Hussein's nuclear activities.

President Bush recently praised Fitzgerald on NBC's "Today" show, saying: "The special prosecutor is conducting a very serious investigation. He's doing it in a very dignified way, by the way, and we'll see what he says."

But now friends of the White House have started whispering that the Brooklyn-raised prosecutor is overzealous after it became clear that Bush political mastermind Karl Rove and Vice President Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis (Scooter) Libby, are in Fitzgerald's cross hairs.

Such hints surfaced publicly for the first time yesterday when Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Tex.), armed with comments that sources said were "shaped" by the White House, suggested Fitzgerald might nail someone on a "technicality" because they forgot something or misspoke.

"I certainly hope that if there is going to be an indictment ... it is an indictment on a crime and not some perjury technicality where they couldn't indict on the crime, and so they go to something just to show that their two years of investigation was not a waste," Hutchison said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

Fitzgerald was first tasked with finding the Plame leaker, but his mandate expanded to include counts of perjury, obstruction of justice, intimidation of witnesses or destruction of evidence, should anyone undermine his probe.

There were several reports yesterday that Fitzgerald could warn people they've been indicted as soon as today, and that the grand jury could be called in for an unusual session tomorrow, but his office declined to comment.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: chamberlainbuff; churchilltroll; cialeak; longestlastingtroll; lyingjoewilson; neville; valerieplame; wardchurchillbuff; zotmeb4itrollagain
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To: Patriot from Philly
One thing that always bothered me about this is that a leftist reporter has been getting good leaks from what I assume to be Fitzgerald's staff for months.

Here is another reference to "staff leak". Who is this leftitst reporter who is getting the leaks? I found this post of yours from earlier today.

181 posted on 10/24/2005 3:33:51 PM PDT by cardinal4
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To: Patriot from Philly
But then you posted this-I wouldn't plea if I were Rove or Libby. Fitzgerald seems a little desperate. Maybe he has some doubts about his cooperating witness. We'll see how strong the case is on Wednesday.

I got that post from here. I ask again-what do you know that no one else does? Plea? What would they plea to?

182 posted on 10/24/2005 3:41:20 PM PDT by cardinal4
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To: cardinal4

The reporter is Murray Waas. He has been getting good information on this case.


183 posted on 10/24/2005 3:45:36 PM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: Patriot from Philly
And finally-Posted by Patriot from Philly to Txsleuth On News/Activism 10/22/2005 3:19:00 PM CDT · 16 of 24 I've noticed that about Mitchell also. My take: the smarter members of the media are beginning to realize that their short term victory in getting indictments against Bush officials will have a long term negative effect on two organizations. The MSM and CIA have won a major battle but not the war. Let's just say this is the Battle of France in 1940, there are many more battles to go.

Here is another assertion of indictments. And to sleeper outed on this very thread no less..

184 posted on 10/24/2005 3:49:54 PM PDT by cardinal4
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To: churchillbuff; Huck
["I certainly hope that if there is going to be an indictment ... it is an indictment on a crime and not some perjury technicality where they couldn't indict on the crime, and so they go to something just to show that their two years of investigation was not a waste," Hutchison said on NBC's "Meet the Press."]

Rush was pushing this line today, too. Essentially, perjury is no big deal. Well then, why doesn't Sen. Hutchison introduce a bill that repeals the prohibition on perjury, or the criminal sanctions for perjury?

Ahem -- learn to read. She didn't say that *perjury* wouldn't be a big deal, she said "perjury technicality". That is, a nitpicking violation of only the letter of the law but not the spirit of the law.

There are plenty of petty ways that someone can be charged with a technical nitpick of a law if the prosecutor wants to be a dick about it, even when the act the law was written to prohibit wasn't committed. Like charging someone with check fraud because an accidental typo voided the transaction.

185 posted on 10/24/2005 3:54:45 PM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Labyrinthos

Based on Miller's published account of her testimony, Fitz would appear to have little or nothing on Libby or Cheney.


186 posted on 10/24/2005 3:54:55 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

Perhaps, but Miller's articles only reveal what she claims she said to the GJ and until we know what Libby and Rove said to the GJ under oath, we're just speculating.


187 posted on 10/24/2005 4:03:13 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Patriot from Philly
One thing that struck me about Miller's account of her meetings with Libby is that she pressured him a bit to reveal some classified info, to give her a better story, and it was done matter-of-factly, not as something scandalous or risky, but merely SOP between government officials and reporters. And I'm sure it is. Not that she claimed Libby gave her anything in this case, but it seems that pressing for classified info is routine, and reporters are often given it. That's one of the things that's so hypocritical about this case. They're putting a microscope on this and pretending it's essentially different from daily routine in DC.
188 posted on 10/24/2005 4:03:21 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: karnage
No indictments

I think I'm with you on that one. The SP is probably struggling with the idea of have having to justify this whole process with no significant result. All the reports and rumors are pure speculation by people with no more sense than you or me. We will see soon enough and I hope we are right.

189 posted on 10/24/2005 4:09:12 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Well, if it comes to trials I don't think the reporters are going to look good at all, not at all.


190 posted on 10/24/2005 4:10:08 PM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: churchillbuff
You have principle. The people attacking you are the same people that screech to the heavens when a lib judge legislates from the bench but think it's perfectly alright when a conservative judge does the same.

Crats will lower themselves into the slime to gain or hold onto power, true Republican conservatives hold themselves to a higher standard.

191 posted on 10/24/2005 4:12:50 PM PDT by metalurgist (Death to the democrats! They're almost the same as communists, they just move a little slower.)
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To: The Phantom FReeper; Petronski; AmishDude; churchillbuff; All
Note that the quote is not attributed.

No matter, as long as it makes Neville feel all warm and fuzzy.

192 posted on 10/24/2005 4:28:06 PM PDT by dighton
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To: dighton

Oh, I know about chamberlainbuff. :-)


193 posted on 10/24/2005 4:29:03 PM PDT by The Phantom FReeper (Have you hugged your soldier today?)
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To: mass55th
Must be "The Invisible Man" since the Daily Screws didn't bother to name him.

And I love the way that they brag about the lack of subtlety from the anonymous so-called staffer. What a joke...JFK

194 posted on 10/24/2005 4:34:01 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: Reactionary
Yeah? What's the name of this White House "ally?" We aren't told.

"Ally"...yeah, right. In other words, they went and found a person who claimed he voted for Bush and force-fed him this quote. I call BS. Watch how quickly the liberals turn against Fitz when the indictments don't include the Rove, Libby, Cheney trifecta they've been breathlessly hoping for. He'll be dismissed as a partisan hack in about 3 seconds.

195 posted on 10/24/2005 4:38:21 PM PDT by djfox1
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To: sinkspur

exactly....

I didn't commit any crime while I was eating dinner, but if you haul me before a grand jury 4 separate times and ask me what I had for dinner, how did I fix it, who did I talk to, what time I ate it, what recipe did I use,..etc. I would probably give different answers depending on my state of mind at the time.

Does that make me a perjurer?


196 posted on 10/24/2005 4:45:55 PM PDT by fifthestate
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To: fifthestate
Does that make me a perjurer?

If I've spent millions chasing you for one thing, but can't prove that thing, then I'll nail you on lying about your recipe.

197 posted on 10/24/2005 4:51:13 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: new yorker 77

Ooooh. I like your fightin' words. Great attitude and apparent leadership qualities. Are you running in '08? :o)


198 posted on 10/24/2005 4:54:15 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina

At one time, I thought I would have liked to run for office, but I love my family too much to even entertain it and love my career to leave those who rely on me.

I will use my genius behind the scenes in my spare time.

I have 62 MILLION+ to keep me company.


199 posted on 10/24/2005 4:59:55 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: demkicker; montag813
Bush was stupid to appoint anyone at all. It was not neccessary, and it has created an absurd distraction and threat over a trivial matter. No one except the NYT was calling for it.

Bush didn't appoint Fitzgerald. Someone in the CIA (a commie/dem mole) referred it to the Atty Generals office. Ashcroft, not wanting to appear there was a conflict of interest, recused himself and a Special Prosecutor was allowed to "look into it".

I agree with Montag813. Even though President Bush did not directly appoint the Special Prosecutor, his team bungled this badly right from the start. The very first thing that should have been done was for President Bush to give DCI George Tenant (his subordinate, by the way) a direct order to furnish the White House a written statement of Valerie Plame's actual, official status as a CIA employee.

This was the critical variable in the whole mess. Either she was convert, or she was not. More specifically, the CIA leadership should have been forced to go on the record. If Tenet had acknowledged that she was not covert, then the White House could have simply said so, released Tenet's document to the media, pointed out that no crime was committed, and told everybody to shut up.

If Tenet had verified that she was covert, then the White House could have done the right thing and requested the investigation themselves, preferably through regular Justice Department channels, with the added benefit of the moral high ground.

It was mind-boggling to me why the President didn't just summon George Tenet and order him to verify her status immediately and put it in writing. At least then he would have some idea of the proper way to proceed with the investigation, and if Tenet lied to him on the record, he would have a measure of protection.

200 posted on 10/24/2005 5:11:19 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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