Special Report: Was The Wilson Affair A CIA Plot?

GOP USA ^ | October 24, 2005 | By Cliff Kincaid

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[EternalHope]

Was this a plot hatched by people within the CIA? Yes.

Was this a plot hatched by the CIA as an institution? No.

Should heads role, big time? YES.

The CIA, just like the U.S. military, should stay out of politics. The people in the CIA who conspired together to bring down a sitting U.S. President were so far out of line that they need to be made an example of. Personally, I would call it treason.

[Spitzensparkin1]

"Was this a plot hatched by people within the CIA? Yes."

"Was this a plot hatched by the CIA as an institution? No."

"Should heads role, big time? YES."

"The CIA, just like the U.S. military, should stay out of politics. The people in the CIA who conspired together to bring down a sitting U.S. President were so far out of line that they need to be made an example of. Personally, I would call it treason."

Well said....BUMP!

Spitz'

[p23185]

I hope the GOP gets behind Rove and Libby. I support both of them.

IF they want voter support in 2006, they DAMN well better support Rove and Libby, if no crime has been committed. And by that I mean no "grand jury only" crime has been committed (not forgetting something during GJ testimony).

[bitt]

agree/bump

[petercooper]

bttt

[prairiebreeze]

The liberals who are anxious for indictments of Bush Administration officials in this case should start paying attention to this aspect of the scandal. They may be opposed to the Iraq War, but since when is the CIA allowed to run covert operations against an elected president of the U.S.?

The liberals in this country would allege that the President sleeps with little boys if they thought it would bring him down and them back into power.

Perhaps this isn't the first time the CIA has been involved in questionable activities and operations that could or did bring down political figures.

[lugsoul]

There is also this tidbit from Fitzgerald's brief to the DC Circuit:

"Specifically, as set forth in detail in the ex parte submissions, there are reasonable grounds to believe, based on substantial evidence obtained from non-media sources, that one or more federal criminal statutes were violated in connection with disclosures to the news media of information relating to the purported CIA employment of Ambassador Joseph Wilson’s wife (Valerie Plame). See 28 C.F.R. § 50.10(f)(1)."

[prairiebreeze]

great article ping

[Perdogg]

relating to the purported CIA employment of Ambassador Interesting phraseology. It sound too pro forma to me.

[airborne]

I hope the GOP gets behind Rove and Libby.

Moore importantly, I hope the President gets behind them.

[lugsoul]

I almost think it was intended to sound that way - i.e. "we ain't saying it was or it wasn't, just that it very well could be."

[Mo1]

DiGenova tells this columnist, "It seems to me somewhat strange, in terms of CIA tradecraft, that if you were really attempting to protect the identity of a covert officer, why would you send her husband overseas on a mission, without a confidentiality agreement, and then allow him when he came back to the United States to write an op-ed piece in the New York Times about it."

He nails it there

[GOPJ]

They may be opposed to the Iraq War, but since when is the CIA allowed to run covert operations against an elected president of the U.S.?

Is running "covert operations against an elected president of the U.S." during a time of war an act of treason?

[Valin]

In theory I agree. BUT
How many of those involved in this (assuming it's true) are civil service? How do you find out just who isw a good guy, and who isn't?

[Right_in_Virginia]

BUMP

[popdonnelly]

"Miller said she didn't want a part in this, got a conscious and now the Times is throwing her under the bus."

Miller would have written a story on Plame and Wilson, but her editors at the New York Times wouldn't let her. Probably didn't want further damage to Wilson's credibility.

[djfox1]

One only needs to look at the timing of Wilson's Op-Ed...July of 2003, months AFTER the Iraq war began. If Wilson was so concerned and troubled by what he allegedly "didn't find in Africa" in 2002, why didn't he say something immediately after the president's 2003 SOTU address with those 16 now-infamous words? Why didn't Wilson publish anything BEFORE the war started? Simple. He couldn't take the risk that stockpiles of WMD might actually be found, because it would have put his wife's CIA career in serious jeopardy.

Plame and the CIA were engaged in a series of orchestrated maneuvers to hedge themselves against whatever happened - if stockpiles were found, they wanted to take credit for providing good intelligence; if no stockpiles were found, they wanted an "out"....enter Joe Wilson. Val sends hubby on a boondoggle trip that NO ONE from the White House asked for, knowing full well what his "findings" would be. It all fits.

So what are Rove, Libby, et al truly guilty of? They are guilty of wanting the MSM to report the truth - that the CIA, and specifically Wilson and his wife, were engaged in a political attempt to undermine the president during a time of war. If Fitz has any integrity, he'll indict the two people in this whole sorry affair that in my opinion, based on the evidence in the public record thus far, truly DID act in a treasonous manner....Wilson and his wife.

[CyberAnt]

The elites of Washington D.C.

[piasa]

Conyers held one of those unofficial mock hearings in congress and called some interesting people to testify:

[Ahmed Omar] Abu Ali's sister can be seen testifying at a Conyers hearing by clicking here http://www.c-span.org/search/basic.asp?ResultStart=1&ResultCount=10&BasicQueryText=conyers and clicking on the hearing at second from bottom, then ssrolling to 1:54 on the play clock. Interestingly, Conyers cleared out of the chairman's chair just before she came on. 214 posted on 02/22/2005 10:04:41 AM PST by hispanarepublicana

So who is Ahmed Omar Abu Ali?

Well, Ahmad Omar Abu Ali is a guy who had been accused of being part of a conspiracy to assassinate the President.

His lawyer, Ashraf Nubani, is one of Global Relief Foundation's lawyers.

Global Relief is the charity that was tipped off by Phillip Shenon of the NY Times about an impending raid on their offices.

Phillip Shenon is associated with Judith Miller in that tipoff case.

Conyers has appeared at demonstrations put on by ANSWER; ANSWER is funded by George Soros.

Conyers and Slaughter are the politicians who went after James D. Guckert aka Jeff Gannon of Talon News- who the press apparently doesn't think should qualify for protection under their shield law plans, no doubt.