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Tax reform timidity
The Washington Times ^ | 10-24-05 | Richard W. Rahn

Posted on 10/24/2005 11:47:42 AM PDT by JZelle

The president's tax reform panel's report is due at the end of this month, but don't hold your breath if you were looking for the reform that is really needed. Preliminary signs are the panel will recommend relatively modest (but several desirable) changes to the federal tax system. For decades the present income tax system, with its tens of thousands of rules and regulations, has been widely recognized as so complex no one human, no matter how talented, can understand it.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: amt; homemortgage; ripoff; taxes; taxreform; tyranny
TYRANNY!! That's the best description!
1 posted on 10/24/2005 11:47:43 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: JZelle

Yeah, another campaign promise up in political smoke. TAX REFORM should be in my oxymoron dictionary...all it will be is bad news, if any news. Expect only more redistribution of wealth.


2 posted on 10/24/2005 11:57:53 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

That AMT is pure BS!! Aimed at the very rich but never indexed to inflation, now it's oozing down into the middle class.


3 posted on 10/24/2005 12:24:17 PM PDT by JZelle
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To: JZelle

That AMT is pure BS!! Aimed at the very rich but never indexed to inflation, now it's oozing down into the middle class.
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The Tax Code should be torched and dumped. It is nothing but a political weapon that Washington pols use to get the support they need from select groups. It is also a vehicle for socialism.

We need a flat tax system, a fair tax system, whatever you want to call it. Something that removes the pols hands from the whole issue and treats EVERY WORKING AND NON-WORKING CITIZEN EQUALLY AND FAIRLY. You make a buck, you pay a dime --- I don't care who you are.

Then all this crap will end.


4 posted on 10/24/2005 12:28:10 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

Outstanding post!


5 posted on 10/24/2005 12:32:20 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Judith Anne

Outstanding post!
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Tks! Well, it is a huge problem. The pols are drunk on our tax dollars and they cannot stop taxing and spending, or more accurately, they DON'T WANT TO!!!

Something has to be done. Taxation is totally out of control at all levels.


6 posted on 10/24/2005 12:36:04 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA; pigdog; ancient_geezer
Yeah, another campaign promise up in political smoke. TAX REFORM should be in my oxymoron dictionary...

Things are moving along fine with Fairtax; http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1505596/posts?page=10#10

Seven more Senators and Congressmen to sign up in support of Fairtax is nothing to bulk at.

7 posted on 10/24/2005 12:40:46 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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Seven more Senators and Congressmen to sign up in support of Fairtax is nothing to bulk at.
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Well let's hope that translates into something MEANINGFUL...such as true tax reform that benefits the taxpayer, and not Washington politics.


8 posted on 10/24/2005 12:43:32 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: JZelle; Taxman; pigdog; Principled; EternalVigilance; rwrcpa1; phil_will1; kevkrom; n-tres-ted; ...
A Taxreform bump for you all.

If anyone would like to be added to this ping list let me know.

John Linder in the House(HR25) & Saxby Chambliss Senate(S25) offer a comprehensive bill to kill all income and SS/Medicare payroll taxes outright and replace them with with a national retail sales tax administered by the states.

H.R.25,S.25
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.

Refer for additional information:


9 posted on 10/24/2005 12:52:39 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: EagleUSA
Good post- with one minor correction:

You make a buck, you pay a dime

You spend a buck, you pay 2 dimes --- I don't care who you are.

10 posted on 10/24/2005 1:22:31 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: JZelle; Judith Anne; EagleUSA; Paul C. Jesup
"What the income tax does is lead the people of this country down a path to where actual control of their resources, which in the end is the control over their will, is handed off to the government.

The government then manipulates that will in order to destroy the freedom of our electoral system through the income tax structure, and we call the resulting slavery a free system.

In point of fact, it is not as the founders understood, and the only way to restore real freedom is to give people back control over the income that they earn so that they won't, at the voting booth and in other phony issues, be subject to that manipulation.

The Intent of the individual income tax is for political and social control, not revenue collection. The Individual Income tax is maintained to establish and hold every person in the country perpetual legal jeopardy. That is a situation that must end with the repeal of the income tax from the statutes, and the prohibition of its use by Constitutional amendment that future generations will not face the same manner of manipulation and interference in their lives.

Maybe we ought to see that every person who gets a tax return receives a copy of the Communist Manifesto with it so he can see what's happening to him."

- T. Coleman Andrews, Commissioner of IRS, May 25, 1956 in U.S. News & World Report.

11 posted on 10/24/2005 1:24:55 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: JZelle
Interesting that the exact same can be said for the Income tax.

Politicians have known for some time that class warfare and 'socking it to the rich guy' is their friend -- the clueless, jealous sheople are all too happy to comply.
12 posted on 10/24/2005 2:13:39 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious (Liberals are all about choice UNTIL you choose differently than them.)
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To: EagleUSA; All
The pols are drunk on our tax dollars and they cannot stop taxing and spending, or more accurately, they DON'T WANT TO!!!

"In Kelo v. New London, the United States Supreme Court held that government may take property that belongs to one person and give it to another. That is hardly surprising. Government today does little else." -- Timothy Sandefur

"The point to remember is that what government gives it must first take away." -- J.S. Caldwell

"In general, the art of government consists in taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other." -- Voltaire (1764)

"Theft is theft even when the government approves of the thievery.  Turning a democracy into a kleptocracy does not enhance the stature of the thieves, it only diminishes the legitimacy of the government." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw

"Too many voters are already bought -- not by corporate campaign donors, but by the government itself." -- Joseph Sobran.

"THE PRIMARY ROLE OF GOVERNMENT IS TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT." -- NEAL BOORTZ's "UNIFIED THEORY OF POLITICAL DYNAMICS"

"Politicians don't like empowered individuals." -- Neal Boortz

"The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos." -- H. L. Mencken, 1919

-- all from THIS PAGE

13 posted on 10/24/2005 7:37:14 PM PDT by FreeKeys ("Politicians and bureaucrats are hopelessly addicted to running other people's lives." - Geoff Neale)
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To: FreeKeys

"Theft is theft even when the government approves of the thievery. Turning a democracy into a kleptocracy does not enhance the stature of the thieves, it only diminishes the legitimacy of the government." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown


That line right there makes her my choice for the SCOTUS, but I know I'm dreaming.


14 posted on 10/25/2005 7:04:22 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: Paul C. Jesup

Last time I peeked, it was up to 45 cosponsors in the House.


15 posted on 11/01/2005 5:09:39 PM PST by pigdog
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Last time I peeked, it was up to 45 cosponsors in the House.

I heard a year ago it was up to 52 cosponsors in the House alone.

16 posted on 11/01/2005 5:11:41 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup

I believe that's right and it looks like it'll go beyond that soon.


17 posted on 11/03/2005 10:56:39 AM PST by pigdog
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