20 Arrested, 171 Vehicles Impounded At Checkpoint

AP ^ | 10-24-05 | (AP) POMONA, Calif

[VRing]

AP) POMONA, Calif. Pomona police arrested 20 people, impounded 171 vehicles and issued 194 citations during a sobriety and license check operation that wrapped up early this morning.

[freeeee]

There was a word for these old women

Babushkas. But in these days of outsourcing, cost cutting and hi-tech, we Americans will just have to settle for cameras.

[A CA Guy]

Yes, because they were obviously after those wanting to party and then get behind the wheel and that happens at night and in the early AM.

[vrwc0915]

Warantless searches at roadblocks!
Try avoiding a checkpoint or refusing to answer questions and see what happens. So you like checkpoints as long as they don't inconvenience YOUR commute to work?

[Tench_Coxe]

"I have often wondered what would keep them from using our TV(Instant on) as a microphone, and decided that in fact there was nothing that prevented them from doing just that."

You're talking about a telescreen from '1984'.

[freeeee]

Time of day is not probable cause.

We're Americans. We travel whenever we damned well feel like it, without being detained, without explanation and without showing papers. It's our birthright.

If you don't like it, move. There is no shortage of third world pissholes and communist hellholes that violate those rights.

[mysterio]

I mean really, how can one have an "expectation of privacy" in one's home? I mean, you pay the government rent, so it's not really yours, and the place has windows, so you must not be that worried about privacy in the first place. Plus, think how much crime will be prevented for the children when all of us are watched 24 hours a day by video cameras in our homes. After all, if you're not doing anything wrong, what do you have to worry about?

[A CA Guy]

I think looking for drunk drivers, people without insurance would be best done after 7AM at night and into the early morning.
Things such as courts run during regular hours and not showing up for that would be hell.

[A CA Guy]

Stopping people in the streets and checking out the car for highway safety has been going on for as long as cars have been on the road.

You do not have a birthright to do anything with impunity on PUBLIC roads. I don't know where you get that from.

[vrwc0915]

Driving your patrol car on the roads and stopping drivers who exhibit signs of being intoxicated works as well and as a plus requires someone to break the law to invite the police into their life. I know this because I have made many DUI arrests this way. Roadblocks for paper checking are a horrible waste of resources,money, and just bring resentment towards law enforcement.

[A CA Guy]

But the highway patrol also does area checks bringing in samplings of the cars passing by to see who no insurance, registration and other stuff that is significant and a rolling crime as well.

By being on the road doing this now and then, they make it more a threat to be driving around without insurance.

[vrwc0915]

"But the highway patrol also does area checks bringing in samplings of the cars passing by to see who no insurance, registration and other stuff that is significant and a rolling crime as well.

By being on the road doing this now and then, they make it more a threat to be driving around without insurance.
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I don't know about how you do things in CA but by stopping a vehicle that has not committed any infraction is illegal, if they admit to stopping vehicles that are moving just to check them out that is crazy. Any decent lawyer would have every charge/ticket thrown out on a vehicle that was stopped just to check them out

I must have been out of the country the day the 4th amendment was ruled not to apply in CA

[freeeee]

Stopping people in the streets and checking out the car for highway safety has been going on for as long as cars have been on the road.

...in Russia.

In America that practice was ended with the 4th Amendment which was a direct response to the British "General Warrant".

Roadblocks in the US were resurrected in 1992 with a SCOTUS ruling that admitted roadblocks did indeed violate the 4th Amendment, but ruled that taking drunks off the road was a compelling state interest that overruled 4th Amendment protection.

Pure, unmitigated court activism. SCOTUS has no authority to override the Constitution. Rehnquist wrote the decision, showing that "conservatives" just LOVE judicial activism when it suits their purposes. Hypocrites.

Your historical revisionism won't fly here.

[A CA Guy]

Highway Patrol has been doing this for public safety all over the nation for I believe over 50 years now.

Russia would allow you to drive without insurance, a license and drunk...so we are not being Russia here.

[A CA Guy]

"Any decent lawyer would have every charge/ticket thrown out on a vehicle that was stopped just to check them out"

It would be done if he got lucky in front of the right judge. In general, it is considered the highway patrol doing part of their job to keep the public highways safe. This is a non-issue and all the arrests seems to show it's effectiveness IMO.

[freeeee]

Highway Patrol has been doing this for public safety all over the nation for I believe over 50 years now.

Source please?

we are not being Russia here.

Armed agents of the state are detaining people absent probable cause during their travels to check their papers and question them about where they have been and destination.

That's Russia. And China, Cuba, Nazi Germany, Iraq. The who's who of oppressive states all behave as such. I guess we're special, so when we do it, it's ok.

[vrwc0915]

The stasi and KGB were also effective in their jobs!

Here is a link for all the JBT's and JBT lickers to learn how to conduct a roadblock that takes advantage od USSC rulings gutting the 4th Amd. http://www.mtas.utk.edu/KnowledgeBase.nsf/bf3ba75424c6e99085256a1d004ce22b/132073412106245685256b220068ed48?OpenDocument

[itsahoot]

I mean really, how can one have an "expectation of privacy" in one's home?

There you go then. <(•¿•)>

[ichabod1]

I believe this is the same as depriving one of property without due process.

OF COURSE it is. So is seizing your vehicle (or house) when they arrest you for something.

[verity]

That is the trouble with you libertines. You have no sense of humor; only canned insipid retorts.

[unixfox]

I propose a new "REALITY" TV Show called C.O.P.

Citizens On Patrol. We videotape rogue cops, judges, politicians, lawyers and other so-called LEO's in dirty little acts like driving drunk, beating their spouses, doing/buying drugs, etc..etc..etc..

What goes around comes around I say!