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Dubya Does 'Reagan'
Townhall ^ | 10/23/2005 | Debra Saunders

Posted on 10/24/2005 5:44:36 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher

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To: Mr. Jeeves

And what about his Supreme Court nominees???

Yet you won't see them bash him the way they are bashing GWB.

Hypocrites.


21 posted on 10/24/2005 6:51:26 AM PDT by SONbrad
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To: TruthSetsUFree
And that's the greatest success any of us can have: being who God created us to be.

Did God create Bush to; be a president who won't uphold immigration laws; cave in to every spending bill; spend more money than any other president in history; allow special interests to write the medicaid prescription bill; allow Ted Kennedy, of all people, to write the education bill?

If that's who Bush is why didn't we know about this before the election.

Also, where is Bush's leadership regarding making the tax cuts permanent? Nowhere. In fact, his administration has just created a commision to reform the tax structure and that's a total joke.

22 posted on 10/24/2005 6:55:18 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: SmoothTalker
Comparing a RINO to Reagan is an insult to the Gipper's memory.

Well put.

23 posted on 10/24/2005 6:56:10 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: AmericaUnited

Short,very short memories!


24 posted on 10/24/2005 7:03:57 AM PDT by jos65
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To: AmericaUnited
The only joke here is how some many of Bush's ankle biter critics and their ilk were also bashing Reagan during his time in office.

So true... the fact is that Reagan himself was never the "Reagan" that GWB is compared to.

25 posted on 10/24/2005 7:05:06 AM PDT by kevkrom (Thank you... I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waitress. (And try the veal!))
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To: Molly Pitcher
Today, Republicans hear the words Ronald Wilson Reagan and they smile.

President Reagan ALWAYS made me smile. Mr. Bush increasingly just makes me shake my head in bewilderment.

26 posted on 10/24/2005 7:14:12 AM PDT by jpl
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To: TruthSetsUFree
I kinda doubt GWB wants to be Ronald Reagan ... Dubya is his own man, very obviously comfortable in his own skin, knows his own mind, and knows where he's going and how to get there. I for one don't want him to be Ronald Reagan. I want him to be who God created him to be: George W. Bush. And that's the greatest success any of us can have: being who God created us to be.


I think your taking my comments a little too literally.
27 posted on 10/24/2005 7:32:28 AM PDT by Honcho
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To: jammer
Too bad he doesn't have the principles or convictions.

You mean like never raising taxes? Reagan raised taxes.

You mean like never cowing to terrorists? Reagan cut and ran when Marines were killed in Lebanon?

You mean like actually cutting government? Government grew more under Reagan than at any time since FDR.

You mean in actually like DOING SOMETHING about abortion? Reagan never signed one piece of abortion legislation; Bush signed PBA ban.

You mean like in appointing strict constructionists to the Supreme Court? Reagan appointed O'Connor and Kennedy.

Yeah. Bush is no Reagan. He's much more principled than Reagan was.

28 posted on 10/24/2005 7:39:04 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: kevkrom

This piece is a very good corrective.

We are all subject, to a certain extent, to engage in hero worship.

I'll plead guilty to that when it comes to President Reagan.

But history and intellectual honesty should force us all to remember that, like President Bush right now, Reagan also stumbled and yes, even his supporters at the time winced on occasion.

Bush and his team should remember that as they endure the usual second term disasters, even if some of them are self-inflicted, as I believe the Miers nomination was.

And no one on this forum needs to crap on Mr. Reagan to make that point, as some knucklehead does up thread.


29 posted on 10/24/2005 7:40:18 AM PDT by borkrules
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To: jammer
He has Reagan's resolve. Too bad he doesn't have the principles or convictions.

Unprincipled "resolve" is called stubbornness.
Unprincipled "loyalty" is called cronyism.
Unprincipled "retribution" is called vindictiveness

When a man is unprincipled even seeming virtues are flaws.

When a man is principled even seeming flaws can reveal ever greater character development.

Sadly, it seems the greatest difference between Reagan and Bush is the word principled.
30 posted on 10/24/2005 7:41:47 AM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: Honcho

Sadly, he is not..


31 posted on 10/24/2005 7:42:26 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Molly Pitcher

Mr President, You ain't no RR and never will be!


32 posted on 10/24/2005 7:43:04 AM PDT by devane617
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To: sinkspur
Its posts like your last that really cement people's opinion of you as a Bush toadie. I mean really man, you'll go that far to "defend" Bush? Trash Reagan to make "your" guy look better?
33 posted on 10/24/2005 7:44:02 AM PDT by borkrules
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To: sinkspur
Yeah. Bush is no Reagan. He's much more principled than Reagan was.

President Bush would not know principle if it reached up and bit him.

No modern President has had as much political power (even FDR) - and done so little with it. Even the W.O.T. has become a joke when Bin Laden is a terrorist to Bush, but the PLO/Hamas get a pass.
34 posted on 10/24/2005 7:45:43 AM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: raybbr
Also, where is Bush's leadership regarding making the tax cuts permanent? Nowhere.

Baloney. Bush was pushing making these cuts permanent all summer!

You obviously weren't paying attention.

35 posted on 10/24/2005 7:48:16 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: sinkspur
>>>>>>You mean like never cowing to terrorists? Reagan cut and ran when Marines were killed in Lebanon?

Reagan rightly realized that we had no vital national interest at stake in Lebanon, and left. Reagan's mistake wasn't in leaving Lebanon, it was going in in the first instance.

Ronald Wilson Reagan was a truly great President, as shown by the fact that the problems he was elected to solve (the Soviet threat, double-digit inflation) are so thoroughly solved that people barely remember them. It's a shame that we haven't had anyone even approaching his stature in the White House since then.

36 posted on 10/24/2005 7:48:38 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: borkrules
Its posts like your last that really cement people's opinion of you as a Bush toadie. I mean really man, you'll go that far to "defend" Bush? Trash Reagan to make "your" guy look better?

Since you can't respond to the points made (they are all true!), you trash me.

A paucity of argument leads to ad hominems.

37 posted on 10/24/2005 7:50:22 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: Thorin
It's a shame that we haven't had anyone even approaching his stature in the White House since then.

Reagan was nearly disabled by Iran-Contra. Trading arms with Iran for hostages. Perhaps you forgot that.

You blow off Lebanon as if it was nothing. bin Laden always cites the Marine barracks as the first example of America not having the stomach for a fight with terrorists. Clinton followed with Mogadishu and Khobar Towers.

38 posted on 10/24/2005 7:55:23 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: safisoft
No modern President has had as much political power (even FDR) - and done so little with it.

Yeah. Freeing 50 million Muslims in two countries is really nothing.

39 posted on 10/24/2005 7:56:44 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: sinkspur
Don't you effing dare to take down the Great Man in defending Bush. Don't you effing dare, you sick twisted bastard.

You mean like never cowing to terrorists? Reagan cut and ran when Marines were killed in Lebanon?

He also pounded Libya into submission. Try again.

You mean like actually cutting government? Government grew more under Reagan than at any time since FDR.

Garbage. Read and weep.

You mean in actually like DOING SOMETHING about abortion? Reagan never signed one piece of abortion legislation; Bush signed PBA ban.

Bush ever try to change the culture by saying something like this? Reagan tried to put in Supreme Court Justices to overturn Roe versus Wade; don't forget also he had the handicap of a Democrat Congress.

You mean like in appointing strict constructionists to the Supreme Court? Reagan appointed O'Connor and Kennedy.

They lied to him. Next?

Yeah. Bush is no Reagan. He's much more principled than Reagan was.

Bullshit. Absolute, total unmitigated bullshit. Reagan had loads of principles - including, "In our present crisis, government is not the solution to our problems, government is the problem". He managed to cut taxes and roll back the role of the state to do so. He said the USSR was the Evil Empire and beat them into the ground. Compare and contrast this to President Bush who hasn't vetoed a single spending bill, and keeps on calling Islam a "religion of peace."

You sycophants have degenerated into sheer mindless bastardy by daring to tear down Reagan to build your boy up.

Ivan

40 posted on 10/24/2005 7:59:58 AM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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