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Enemy Body Counts Revived: U.S. Is Citing Tolls to Show Success in Iraq
WP ^ | October 24, 2005 | Bradley Graham

Posted on 10/23/2005 8:19:35 PM PDT by jmc1969

Eager to demonstrate success in Iraq, the U.S. military has abandoned its previous refusal to publicize enemy body counts and now cites such numbers periodically to show the impact of some counterinsurgency operations.

The revival of body counts, a practice discredited during the Vietnam War, has apparently come without formal guidance from the Pentagon's leadership. Military spokesmen in Washington and Baghdad said they knew of no written directive detailing the circumstances under which such figures should be released or the steps that should be taken to ensure accuracy.

Instead, they described an ad hoc process that has emerged over the past year, with authority to issue death tolls pushed out to the field and down to the level of division staffs.

In May, Air Force Gen. Richard B. Myers, then-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, mentioned the killing of 250 of insurgent leader Abu Musab Zarqawi's "closest lieutenants" as evidence of progress in Iraq.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: dod; enemy; gwot; iraq; killed; oif; progress
250 Zarqawi lieutenants killed by late May. Da*n.
1 posted on 10/23/2005 8:19:36 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.


2 posted on 10/23/2005 8:29:59 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: jmc1969; Miss Marple
This is shear desperation from the WP, They want this to be Vietnam so bad that they take an obscure quote by General Myers as a policy change that reflects the failed policy in Iraq. < p>I'm tellin ya, these Liberals are not on our side or even the side of Liberty
4 posted on 10/23/2005 8:34:50 PM PDT by MJY1288 (oute fro Gen. Myers)
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To: jmc1969

Good.

The Lib media has been citing death counts of our own with bloody delight. About time proper context is supplied by citing how many of the enemy were taken down for every one we lose. Should have happened far earlier.


5 posted on 10/23/2005 8:38:08 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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"Specific numbers are used to periodically provide context and help frame particular engagements," said Brig. Gen. Donald Alston, director of communications for the U.S. military command in Baghdad. He added, however, that there is no plan "to issue such numbers on a regular basis to score progress."

This is what they've been doing all along, there is no "change".

There is no "news" in this report. The sole purpose of publishing this piece is to link "Iraq" and "Viet Nam" as much as the MSM possibly can, as a part of the constant drumbeat to try to sap public support for the military mission.

The MSM is trying to run the same playbook as VN:

- convince the public we are losing the war in the field

- weaken the administration by hyping scandals

- take back the congress

- once in control of congress, pull the plug on the military mission and cut our allies off at the knees

- when the enemy wins, the lefties proclaim that they were right along, the war was never winnable, and the academic left enshrines this version of history into the textbooks.

6 posted on 10/23/2005 8:38:41 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: jmc1969

Wierd, now we loose if we give out numbers?

Someone tell me again that the press is not on the side of the enemy.


7 posted on 10/23/2005 8:43:01 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: jmc1969

Is that SOB MacNamara back in charge.


8 posted on 10/23/2005 8:44:54 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: jmc1969
The revival of body counts, a practice discredited during the Vietnam War

Our military is designed to break things and kill the enemy. We get the 'break things' occasionally but the only part about killing is how many of our troops died in the line of duty.

I want to know the enemy death tolls and I want the enemy to know the same. You can bet your sweet ass they don't hear that count from their own people.

9 posted on 10/23/2005 8:50:42 PM PDT by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: jmc1969

Only the MSM has the moral right to broadcast body counts and only those of U.S. soldiers and only to denigrate what a good job they are doing and try to make them seem incompentent.


10 posted on 10/23/2005 8:51:10 PM PDT by tiki
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OK the defeated liberal media wants to talk hourly about our casualties toll as a sign that we are losing the war but they do not want our Military to talk about the casualties toll of the enemy which is at least 15 to 20 times larger than our casualties rate if we consider the killed and captured among them.

In fact our military should not only talk about enemy casualties but they should change their policies and show footage of us killing large numbers of the terrorists in the battlefield.

11 posted on 10/23/2005 8:51:30 PM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: jim-x

More body count stats.


12 posted on 10/23/2005 8:54:13 PM PDT by endthematrix (Those who despise freedom and progress have condemned themselves to isolation, decline, and collapse)
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To: MJY1288
I'm tellin ya, these Liberals are not on our side or even the side of Liberty

Yep. And history will not reflect well on them.
13 posted on 10/23/2005 8:55:06 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Liberty Valance

That is, if we can survive their heinous influence!


14 posted on 10/23/2005 8:57:57 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Just call me a cynical right wing nutjob!)
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