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Wisconsin may open private spaceport
UPI ^ | 10/21/05

Posted on 10/23/2005 12:31:33 PM PDT by KevinDavis

MADISON, Wis., Oct. 21 (UPI) -- Wisconsin legislators are promoting a plan to create a spaceport in the country's top cheese-making state.

The proposal would set up a nine-member Wisconsin Aerospace Authority to promote the state among private entrepreneurs planning to go extraterrestrial, the Wisconsin State Journal reported. Sheboygan would be the state's Houston, allowing failed rockets to fall into Lake Michigan.

Bob Cook, head of the Wisconsin Transportation Development Association, thinks the plan has some lift.

"As long as there's not much state money involved, I think it makes sense," Cook said. "There's an industry out there that's growing and it's smart to do what we can to try to take advantage."

He said the federal government appears to have lost interest in NASA, creating space, as it were, for the private sector.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: cheddarhead; cheeseheads; space
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Question, would it be more feasible to launch rockets from places like New Mexico, Texas, Florida than Wisconsin???????
1 posted on 10/23/2005 12:31:35 PM PDT by KevinDavis
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2 posted on 10/23/2005 12:32:11 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles --> http://www.cafepress.com/kevinspace1)
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To: KevinDavis

If Wisconsin's only selling point is a place for failed launches to have a place to fall back to earth, then they're in deep poop with their marketing strategy.


3 posted on 10/23/2005 12:35:31 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (The Price of Freedom is Written on the Wall.)
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To: KevinDavis

Blessed are the cheese makers.

FWIW - weather there doesn't seem to be conducive for a space program. Then again, look at Russia.


4 posted on 10/23/2005 12:42:00 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: JoeSixPack1

No way. Wisconsin knows cheese, and of course the moon is made of cheese, so they totally have the inside track for lunar missions.


5 posted on 10/23/2005 12:43:42 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: KevinDavis

Sheboygan, we've got a problem...


6 posted on 10/23/2005 12:45:18 PM PDT by LouD
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To: USNBandit

"..and of course the moon is made of cheese,..."

A recently proven fact! Check Google moon -- zoom right in to see the proof.
http://moon.google.com/


7 posted on 10/23/2005 12:48:37 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (")
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Question, would it be more feasible to launch rockets from places like New Mexico, Texas, Florida than Wisconsin???????

Normally launch facilities are located on a coast to prevent a malfunctioning rocket from exploding over inhabited areas. On the other hand you could launch them over Canada. Another problem with Wisconsin is it is located too close the the north pole. The minimum orbital inclination obtainable from a particular launch site is the lattitude north or south of the equator. To get a lower inclination requires fuel burns for plane changes which decreases the available payload from a launch vehicle. It is no coincidence that the Arianne launch site is locate just 5° north of the equator in French Guyana which is a more efficient location than Cape Canaveral (about 27° north). About the only useful satellites that could be launched from Wisconsin are spy satellites and some communications satellites that would be launched into polar orbits. The US already has a launch facility at Vandenberg Air Force base on the southern California coast for launching payloads into polar orbits, and it doesn't require overflying inhabited areas. Notice that French Guyana is one of the few places on land in the world that can be used for launching rockets into both equitorial and polar orbits without having to overfly inhabited areas.

8 posted on 10/23/2005 12:51:50 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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Bob Cook, head of the Wisconsin Transportation Development Association, thinks the plan has some lift.

Somebody is thinking they have a comedy career....with that line.

9 posted on 10/23/2005 12:52:44 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is blacker than the devil's riding boots......................)
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To: USNBandit

Silly me! What was I thinking?? :-)


10 posted on 10/23/2005 12:56:47 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (The Price of Freedom is Written on the Wall.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
The U.S. launched some military nuclear test rockets from Johnston Atoll from 1958-75. That's at about 16.7 degrees North. A little better than Cape Canaveral for launching equatorial satellites. A lot better than Sheboygan.
11 posted on 10/23/2005 1:04:32 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: KevinDavis

Unless the colonization of other planets where the happen, A spaceport would be useless to everyone. No capitalist would even invest a dime in such a project. Tne fact that unless trading and space tourism it would come of some utility


12 posted on 10/23/2005 1:06:59 PM PDT by Petey139
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I can see the appeal, but Wisconsin is more "aero" than "space." There's a fair amount going on around here with avionics and parts, with a number of specialty manufacturers in Milwaukee and the EAA in Oshkosh, but there are technical impediments to space at this latitude as others have mentioned. About the only real selling point is the uninhabited lake to the East providing a spashdown area.


13 posted on 10/23/2005 1:11:56 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: LouD

LOL. Has a certain ring to it.


14 posted on 10/23/2005 1:18:35 PM PDT by kenth (There were only a few thousand hippies marching, but it smelled like half a million.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Alaska has two rocket launch ports. One is in Fairbanks, although that is used mostly for auroral sounding rockets. The other is in Kodiak, I think, and could be used for polar orbit launches as well as ABM tests. There would be no advantage in polar launches by using an equatorial site versus an Alaskan site.


15 posted on 10/23/2005 1:28:32 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: KevinDavis
Question, would it be more feasible to launch rockets from places like New Mexico, Texas, Florida than Wisconsin???????

Hey, I was in Sheboygan just last month! My girlfriend's husband is director of public utilities there. I'll have to ask him the scoop, if there is one. They are very conservative about such stuff back there. Their big all-out event 2 years ago was having the PGA visit the area.

The shuttle landing in Lake Michigan seems feasible, doesn't it? It's a big deep lake! I wonder, though, if the shuttle landed in the Lake, if it would create a big splash? Or if the alewife and lamprey would be upset. LOL!

http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/water/fhp/fish/lakemich/Sea%20Lamprey%20and%20Alewifes.htm

16 posted on 10/23/2005 1:36:51 PM PDT by phantomworker (Seize this very minute... Boldness has genius, power and magic in it... Begin it now!)
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Another reason to put launch facilities as close to the equator as possible (i.e. Florida) has something to do with the amount of fuel required to reach orbit velocity. If you launch from the equator it takes less fuel than if you launched from Wisconsin. Sounds like too much cheese to the brain goin' on up there ...
17 posted on 10/23/2005 1:40:19 PM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: LouD

(chortle!)


18 posted on 10/23/2005 1:41:29 PM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: KevinDavis

19 posted on 10/23/2005 1:46:32 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: KevinDavis

I don't know exactly why this strikes me as so funny, but it does. Hint: Maybe it's the weather.


20 posted on 10/23/2005 1:52:55 PM PDT by pepperdog
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