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To: Ethan_Allen1777

One catch -- terrorists are NOT POW-s as defined by the Geneva convention. Making International law, a US law sets a very bad precedent. You can see that already guards defending themselves against attacks from terrorist prisoners are being punished. Can you imagine, if a US law is passed that almost anything can count as violation of the "rights" of the terrorists?

Did you actually read the bill?


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1497443/posts?page=103#103


THE ACTUAL TEXT, GIVING THE TERRORIST DETAINEES FULL RIGHTS AND PROTECTION OF THE US CONSTITUTION ANYWHERE, EVEN OUTSIDE THE US AND CREATING US LAW BASED ON THE UN.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r109:1:./temp/~r109H252jM:e911694:

(a) In General.--"No individual in the custody or under the physical control of the United States Government, regardless of nationality or physical location, shall be subject to cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment.

(b) Construction.--Nothing in this section shall be construed to impose any geographical limitation on the applicability of the prohibition against cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment under this section.

(c) Limitation on Supersedure.--The provisions of this section shall not be superseded, except by a provision of law enacted after the date of the enactment of this Act which specifically repeals, modifies, or supersedes the provisions of this section.

(d) Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment or Punishment Defined.--In this section, the term ``cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment'' means the cruel, unusual, and inhumane treatment or punishment prohibited by the Fifth, Eighth, and Fourteenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, as defined in the United States Reservations, Declarations and Understandings to the United Nations Convention Against Torture and Other Forms of Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment done at New York, December 10, 1984. "




15 posted on 10/23/2005 12:52:12 AM PDT by FairOpinion (CA Props: Vote for Reform: YES on 73-78, NO on 79 & 80, NO on Y)
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To: FairOpinion
Can you imagine, if a US law is passed that almost anything can count as violation of the "rights" of the terrorists?

How do you get from ``cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment'' means the cruel, unusual, and inhumane treatment or punishment prohibited by the Fifth, Eighth, and Fourteenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, as defined in the United States Reservations, Declarations and Understandings to the United Nations Convention Against Torture and Other Forms of Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment done at New York, December 10, 1984" to "almost anything"?

Did you actually read the bill?

Yes, I see you have posted it but I am not sure you have read it.

18 posted on 10/23/2005 1:06:11 AM PDT by Ethan_Allen1777
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