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To: Marine_Uncle

Al-Ahbash:
Their History and Their Beliefs
Z. Alzamil
http://islamicweb.com/beliefs/cults/habasi_history.htm


Habashi's History:
This group called Ahbash relating to their first leader Abdullah Al-Harawi Al-Habashi. He came to Lebanon from Ethiopia (Habashah), that why they called him Al-habashi. He left Addis Ababa after he made a Fitnah there its called Kolob Fitnah. The Addis Ababa's people know him as Shikh Al-Fitnah according to evidence from some of his relative. What he did there, he work with the ruler of Endraji -the son in law for the Ethiopia's president Helaselasi - against Islamic Associations there, and he helped him to close all the Islamic National Association's schools for memorizing the Holy Quran in Hrar city in 1940 ( 1367 Hejrah), and they issued their judge on the schools' manager - Ibrahim Hassan- to jail him twenty three years, also he helped that ruler to internment the scholars there. He did that for those people, because they are Wahabi. For that reason, the people called him after that is the Shikh Al-Fitnah.

When he came to Lebanon, his followers there forgot his history, and he still does there - in Lebanon - as what he did before in Ethiopia, if you disagree with him in any problem you will be Kafir automatically, he said Ikhwan, Al-Albani and Ibn Baz are Kufars, Ibn Taymiyah is Kafir and Murtad and Zendeq and he asked his followers to lit Ibn Taymiyyah's books, Imam Al-thahabi is wicked, Sayd Sabeq is Majusi (The people who worship the fire) and in the other side he praised Jamal AbdulNasir because he killed Syed Qutob. He asked his followers to hit or kill anyone who has beliefs different than their beliefs, to make sure ask the Lebanon's Mosques Imams, ask Adnan Yasen, how many times they tried to kill him, ask Hassan Katuji, what he did for them to let them following him to hit an hurt him, ask Jamal Al-Thahabi and Abdul-Hamed Shanuha and others why they leave Lebanon. Try to listen to their Radio, and see what they described Shikh Muhammad Al-Juzo, they describe him as lewd man.

In front of all these things, we could not find him or his followers did something toward the Batiniyah, but what he did in one of his lectures, he encouraged the people to appeal the aid from AL-Albeit, and there is no problem to say O' Ali or O' Hussein ( Ya Ali , Ya Hussein).

He also, gave some strange fatwas for his followers, he allow Al-riba (the interest) Some people said he is Jew man, however there is no clear evidence for that, but at least he has a lot of the Jew's characteristics.

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9 posted on 10/22/2005 5:59:03 PM PDT by Valin (Vescere bracis meis.)
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To: Valin
If I may add parts from a profile on the group from:
http://www.meib.org/articles/0104_ld1.htm

The Ahbash's belief system mixes elements of Sunni and Shi'ite theological doctrines with Sufi spiritualism. It includes the following tenets that are regularly publicized in Manar al-Huda, the society's journal:

* Islam's pluralist character and opposing the use of violence against the ruling authorities.

* Supporting the legitimacy of the Imama of Ali, and of his sons Hasan and Hussein, and upholding the teachings of Imam Hussein's son, Zayn al-Abidin. They believe that fighting on Imam Ali's side against Muawiyah was a duty and a Sunna. In this, al-Ahbash set themselves apart from all other Sunni jurists and are closer to Shi'ite Islam.

* Defending many Sufi beliefs and practices that are condemned by the Islamist groups as heresies. Such practices include giving allegiances to the pious ancestors, upholding the name of Allah by singing, visiting the shrines of saintly ancestors for their blessing and keeping meditation boxes in the mosques. The Ahbash enjoy the support of three traditional Sufi orders - Qadiriyya, Rifaiiyya, and Naqshabandiyya.

* Tolerating different forms of Islamic expression and opposing the absolutist standards of the Islamists.

* Rejecting the doctrine of Takfir (the charge of unbelief leveled by the Islamists against other Muslims) and emphasizing a relativistic standard in judging individuals and rulers.

* Opposing the establishment of Islamic order and the appointment of a caliph as espoused by most Islamic fundamentalist groups. The Ahbash endorse consociationalism as a political system and oppose the establishment of an Islamic theocratic state.1

Al-Ahbash opposes Islamic fundamentalist movements inspired by the writings of Ibn Taymiyya and Sayyid Qutb, like the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Jama'a al-Islamiyya. It also opposes revolutionary action against authority. Islamic fundamentalist groups in Lebanon see al-Ahbash as an imposter organization trying to use the power of the Syrian regime to increase its political influence in Lebanon. In August 1995, a radical Islamist group called the Islamic Band of Helpers (Usbat al-Ansar al-Islamiyya) assassinated the leader of Al-Ahbash, Sheikh Nizar al-Halabi. Three of the assailants were executed.

Halabi's deputy, Sheikh Husam Qaraqira, became the organization's leader thereafter. Not surprisingly, Qaraqira graduated from an Islamic seminary in Syria.

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As I read this. Assuming it is accurate. I cannot help but feel their belief system is rather mixed up. Each element contradicts another element. And some believe strongly that UBL was highly influenced by the Qutbist philosophies that are clearly apposed by some of the Salafist and Wahaabist. Just threw it out for general consumption for the few that are analitical in nature. Valine don't feel you have to respond in a technical way. But if you do want to add, please do. Bottom line is their all frigen nuts.

The more I learn over time the more I can easily see how these peoples in time past where simple assasins by their very nature. Easily paid by any given group to go against a brother or cousin etc.. Their low life frigen nuts.

10 posted on 10/22/2005 6:30:51 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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