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To: sinkspur

Sinkspur,

You wrote: "If women decided to not participate in Church ministry, or stopped coming to Church, the Latin Rite of the Catholic Church would collapse."

The Church is built upon the participation of Christ and the Holy Spirit more than the participation of either gender exclusive of the other. Feminists seem to forget that before the 1960's there were few if any women in what is commonly called "ministry" outside of hospitals or schools. Do you think the Church of the 1950's or before was anywhere near collapse? If you do believe so, then please let me know because I have some Florida swamp land I'd like to sell you.

Women are absolutely necessary for the life of the Church over the generations, but not in a public leadership capacity. Every child's first religion teacher is his mother, for instance. This does not mean that we need (or want) to have women in leadership positions in the Church. We never did before the 1960's and it seems to me that those 16 previous centuries were at least as glorious as the past few decades for the church (actually much more so).

When you can present evidence that the Church needs women in leadership positions for any other reason than to satisfy the mad ravings of feminists or ill-catechised women let me know.


25 posted on 10/22/2005 7:26:12 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998
There are women in leadership positions in parishes all over the world. They may not be ordained, but they are leaders all the same. Outstanding leaders.

I don't think much of bishops, especially after their disgraceful mafiosi-like behavior in the sexual abuse fiasco.

I'd rather listen to a dedicated Catholic woman than a pompous ecclesiastic any day of the week.

27 posted on 10/22/2005 7:30:07 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: vladimir998
Every child's first religion teacher is not his mother.

While Jesus may have been celibate and he asked his disciples to follow him, the church certainly took it's time making it the rule. So were they ignoring Jesus?

There is no proof that the church needs men as leaders just as there is no counter proof that they need women. You're using illogic to try to put down the other poster's views.

Some of your comments are false and others are just misdirection.

It takes the church a few centuries to turn around. We have married priests now, but that's okay, is it? When the church allows married priests, people like you will be stuck on go, and there will be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth. But the conclusion will be, it was a stupid rule and it will be forgotten a few years later.

28 posted on 10/22/2005 7:35:45 PM PDT by bigsigh
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