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Polls show tighter race in Poland
The International Herald Tribune ^ | FRIDAY, OCTOBER 21, 2005

Posted on 10/22/2005 6:15:02 AM PDT by A. Pole

WARSAW Donald Tusk and Lech Kaczynski were running neck and neck in public opinion polls Friday as Poland prepared for a presidential runoff on Sunday.

Tusk, the 48-year-old candidate of the business-friendly Civic Platform party, finished three percentage points in front of Kaczynski in the first round of the election two weeks ago and then built up a healthy lead over his conservative rival.

But on Friday, the last day that poll results can be published before the voting, surveys showed that the gap between the two had closed.

One poll by a little-known agency even put the 56-year-old Kaczynski of the conservative Law and Justice party in the lead, albeit with a margin of less than half a percentage point.

Two other surveys gave Tusk leads of four and six points. With the polls' standard margin of error of about three points, that meant the presidential race was wide open.

There is a media blackout on campaign news Saturday. Polling stations are to be open between 6 a.m. and 6 p.m. Sunday, with first exit polls expected when voting ends and official results due Monday.

A political scientist, Mikolaj Czesnik, said: "Lech Kaczynski is backed by a more traditional electorate, by less well-off voters in the countryside and small towns, who want a social system. Tusk, on the other hand, is backed by the young, better-off and more educated voters, who tend to live in bigger cities."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; poland; polishelection; tusk; twins
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1 posted on 10/22/2005 6:15:04 AM PDT by A. Pole
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The Two That Stole the Moon bump!


2 posted on 10/22/2005 6:16:30 AM PDT by A. Pole (Since science has religious roots, teaching it violates separation of church and state!)
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Eastern European ping list


FRmail me to be added or removed from this Eastern European ping list

3 posted on 10/22/2005 7:40:45 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: A. Pole
This one is good too:


I can't stand Jaroslaw, he is a hateful little gnome. Lech is nicer, but too aggresive and nasty for my taste. I will vote for Tusk. Are you a Pole, Mr. A.Pole?

4 posted on 10/22/2005 11:10:32 AM PDT by REactor (Polski patriota)
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To: A. Pole

Well after WWII the race would be tighter.... not that kind of race?


5 posted on 10/22/2005 11:11:48 AM PDT by Porterville (Pray for War)
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To: REactor

Ja przedtem wolalem Tuska. Ale jak sie dowiedzalem ze jest liberalem wole Kaczynskiego.


6 posted on 10/22/2005 2:46:40 PM PDT by A. Pole (Since science has religious roots, teaching it violates separation of church and state!)
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To: A. Pole

Wolne zarty. Nie wiesz ze liberal u nas to calkiem co innego niz u was?


7 posted on 10/22/2005 2:50:31 PM PDT by REactor (Polski patriota)
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To: REactor
Wolne zarty. Nie wiesz ze liberal u nas to calkiem co innego niz u was?

Wiem, uzylem tego slowa w znaczeniu uzywanym poza Stanami. Liberal to wyznawca wolnego rynku i panstwa stroza czyli UPRowiec.

8 posted on 10/22/2005 2:58:39 PM PDT by A. Pole (Since science has religious roots, teaching it violates separation of church and state!)
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To: A. Pole
You know that Tusk supports free-market economy and THAT is why you don't like him? Sorrry, but I don't understand. What are you doing on this forum? I could understand if you were a Buchanan-like conservative, but as far as I know you are not. So what's wrong with you?

HO HO HO, the DUCKS have got go!!

9 posted on 10/22/2005 3:03:52 PM PDT by REactor (Polski patriota)
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To: REactor
I could understand if you were a Buchanan-like conservative, but as far as I know you are not.

Actually I am. You could describe my position as social conservative or paleo-conservative. On issues of market and labor my views are more or less in sync with the traditional Christian doctrine as expressed by the papal encyclicals. I supported Solidarity and not Bagsik or Khodorkovsky.

I think that Kaczynski is closer to Buchanan than Tusk.

10 posted on 10/22/2005 3:19:07 PM PDT by A. Pole (Since science has religious roots, teaching it violates separation of church and state!)
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To: REactor
HO HO HO, the DUCKS have got go!!

What about Donald Dusk?

To make you laugh, there is one guy on Polish forums who does not like brothers Kaczynski's and uses the following tagline:

"Ein Volk, ein Reich, zwei Kaczoren!" (Kaczor - he-duck or drake in Polish)

11 posted on 10/22/2005 3:25:06 PM PDT by A. Pole (Since science has religious roots, teaching it violates separation of church and state!)
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I think that Kaczynski is closer to Buchanan than Tusk.

That's true. And that's why I won't vote for him. This is not the place for the discussion on the basic economics, but if you take JPII's teaching seriously you should read Michael Novak's books and articles. And in Polish you should read: profs. Legutko and Kuninski from UJ. Catholic teaching on economy is perfectly in accordance with free market.

12 posted on 10/22/2005 3:27:36 PM PDT by REactor (Polski patriota)
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"Ein Volk, ein Reich, zwei Kaczoren!" (Kaczor - he-duck or drake in Polish)

Oh yes I saw this on Gazeta.pl (I'm a forum addict), was it? But Kaczor a "drake" in Polish?? WHAT are you talking about, excuse me???

13 posted on 10/22/2005 3:31:51 PM PDT by REactor (Polski patriota)
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OOOOOps, I just looked up my dictionary. I confused drake with dragon. sorry.


14 posted on 10/22/2005 3:35:54 PM PDT by REactor (Polski patriota)
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To: REactor
but if you take JPII's teaching seriously you should read Michael Novak's books and articles.

JPII and other popes condemned the free market doctrine. Michael Novak is wrong.

And in Polish you should read: profs. Legutko and Kuninski from UJ. Catholic teaching on economy is perfectly in accordance with free market.

This is not true. Roman Catholic Church repeatedly condemned the twin errors of socialism and liberalism (Communism and Freemarketeerism).

Do not take my word, here are the proofs:

RERUM NOVARUM - ON CAPITAL AND LABOR

Centesimus Annus - Hundredth Anniversary of Rerum Novarum

QUADRAGESIMO ANNO - ON RECONSTRUCTION OF THE SOCIAL ORDER

QUOD APOSTOLICI MUNERIS - ON SOCIALISM

15 posted on 10/22/2005 3:40:12 PM PDT by A. Pole (Since science has religious roots, teaching it violates separation of church and state!)
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But Kaczor a "drake" in Polish?? WHAT are you talking about, excuse me???

he-duck/male duck/drake [in English] = kaczor in Polish.

16 posted on 10/22/2005 3:41:47 PM PDT by A. Pole (Since science has religious roots, teaching it violates separation of church and state!)
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To: A. Pole
It's very difficult to read Church's documents when you are not versed in the ecclesiastical idiom. I confess that reading most of JPII's encyclicals makes me sleep. That's why I (and we all Catholics I think) need interpretation:

Papież i kapitalizm
The text above comes from the ultra-Catholic Polish website Opoka. I understand that you can interpret Church's teaching in many different ways, but you must always have in mind that Catholic socio-economic order must be in accordance with the truth. I assume that in this case "truth" means truth, i.e. this economic theory which has proven to be more in accordance with facts. And which theory is more in accordance wih facts than that of F.Hayek and M.Friedmann?

17 posted on 10/22/2005 3:59:00 PM PDT by REactor (Polski patriota)
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To: A. Pole

Kudos to our friends and allies in Poland as they prepare to vote Sunday.


18 posted on 10/22/2005 4:26:36 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: A. Pole
If someone can't decide - whether to vote for Donald or Kaczor (Duck) - my suggestion is this candidate :-)))


19 posted on 10/23/2005 3:10:22 AM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

When will we get results or exit polls? I've been up all night and need to get some sleep but will stay up if they are coming soon.


20 posted on 10/23/2005 3:15:52 AM PDT by Heatseeker ("I sort of like liberals now. They’re kind of cute when they’re shivering and afraid." - Ann Coulter)
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