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Murders of (illegal aliens) immigrants help prompt lawsuit against Homeland Security
Hispanic Link News Service ^ | October 20, 2005 | By ROSA RAMIREZ

Posted on 10/22/2005 12:06:44 AM PDT by dennisw

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To: azhenfud

"But you're not confounded at illegals' blatant disregard of US law, or the effects illegals present to healthcare, education, corrections, and other social programs which increase costs to taxpayers?"


Dear Sir, what confounds me is the lack of responsability on behalf of our nation not to recognize the problem and correct this issue by registrating these people upon entry. Which would more than adequately address issues of Health, Lawlessness, residency and many other variables. That is what confounds me !. Along with the idiotic reasoning of the building of a super border length structure to keep these people out.


41 posted on 10/22/2005 4:09:56 AM PDT by CheezyChesster
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To: azhenfud

"CheezyChesster sounds a lot like that moose, bayourod"


Sounds to me like a cheap shot directed toward a fellow consertative that has a valid sense of reasoning


42 posted on 10/22/2005 4:24:10 AM PDT by CheezyChesster
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To: catmanblack.

maybe we could have open season once a year-i bet that would stop'em


Thanks for the fuel, oh brilliant one !


44 posted on 10/22/2005 4:36:14 AM PDT by CheezyChesster
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To: CheezyChesster

i know i am just an old country hick but when there are more mexicans in the USA than there is in mexico-that is an invasion with no combat-i am not arogant enough to believe we can control and change these people to our values-look around they are creating more and more ghettos-places that used to be beautiful in the south are now mexican shanti towns-let registered ones work for six months and then get them the hell out of here-in another ten years they will change the national language to spanish-piss on that


45 posted on 10/22/2005 5:07:30 AM PDT by catmanblack. (he is the great I AM-)
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To: CheezyChesster

Don't forget this: Illegal aliens work for less, that is true. They also have more children than the average American(anchor babies who can get "entitlements"). They send a lot of their money back to Mexico. So, who picks up the tab to take care of the illegal aliens and their "anchor babies" while they are here?


46 posted on 10/22/2005 5:33:17 AM PDT by naden25 (If you can't feed, clothe, or house yourself.....don't have kids!)
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To: catmanblack.

Thank you, for returning a much more acceptable response to my posts. I have read and I acknowledge some of the ie: (in my opinion) short sighted concerns many people have on this issue along with yours. I also welcome responsible debate as well since I feel it helps for better understanding when multple points of view are offered in a debate. I don't mean to imply my views are always correct. But simply attest it when people, especially intellegent people jump on a vigilante band wagon to oppose another human being from acquiring his/her own pursuit of happiness."We hold these truths to be self-evident, that ALL men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". If the major problem in this country is illegal alienship then would it not be more responsible to apply registration and add to our tax base ?


47 posted on 10/22/2005 5:51:33 AM PDT by CheezyChesster
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To: CheezyChesster
But simply attest it when people, especially intellegent people jump on a vigilante band wagon to oppose another human being from acquiring his/her own pursuit of happiness."

Ah, yes, you are so sincere about debating this issue that you refer to the other sides as vigilantes.

We have immigration laws for a reason - supposedly to keep the rate of immigration at a level where they can be assimilated by this country. That is broken now, and it needs to be fixed. It is not racist or vigilatist to say such - instead, it is realistic.

."We hold these truths to be self-evident, that ALL men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness".

Ah, so if stealing cars makes me happy, I should be allowed to do it, even though it is against the law.

If the major problem in this country is illegal alienship then would it not be more responsible to apply registration and add to our tax base ?

No. The massive level of illegal immigration swamps schools and local governments with burdens they cannot handle. They cost money far more than any taxes they would pay.

That is why we have laws to allow immigration at a reasonable level. Millions of people have gone through the proper channels and are welcome here. Illegals should not be.

48 posted on 10/22/2005 5:57:08 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: CheezyChesster
I don't want them here because they create entire "cities" where they speak a foreign language, commit crimes, form gangs and generally refuse to assimilate and instead expect "whitey" to be intimidated by all this.

On the other side of this discussion, I do agree with you. Let them in, register them and tax them. Good idea.
49 posted on 10/22/2005 6:11:54 AM PDT by auntyfemenist (Get out of bed, go to work every day, many problems magically solved.)
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To: William Creel

"they have a lot less rights than the ones citizens get"

Apparently not. Free education, social services and healthcare are a lot more than a US citizen gets. Now, they are winning cases and being given big time bucks in cases around the country.


50 posted on 10/22/2005 6:21:33 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: dirtboy

That is why we have laws to allow immigration at a reasonable level. Millions of people have gone through the proper channels and are welcome here. Illegals should not be


Where exactly are all these registration centers you refer to ? that all these Millions of people have used.


51 posted on 10/22/2005 6:26:13 AM PDT by CheezyChesster
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To: CheezyChesster

Nice try. You might have a different opinion if you're one of the tens of thousands of American Tradesmen / women who's jobs were low-balled out of existance....or, let's say you were an American employer of fellow Americans and you saw your contracts wither and die because of scumbag tax-cheat competitors who hire illegals.....but it's ok.... keep polishing those lenses on your rose coloured glasses.


52 posted on 10/22/2005 6:39:22 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: CheezyChesster
especially intelligent people jump on a vigilante band wagon to oppose another human being from acquiring his/her own pursuit of happiness."We hold these truths to be self-evident, that ALL men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness".

Sounds good, someone should call Vicente Fox and have them add this to Mexico's constitution.

53 posted on 10/22/2005 6:39:50 AM PDT by auntyfemenist (Get out of bed, go to work every day, many problems magically solved.)
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To: CheezyChesster
Dear Sir, what confounds me is the lack of responsability on behalf of our nation not to recognize the problem and correct this issue by registrating these people upon entry.

Would you say the same thing about Poles, Germans, Asians, Ethiopians?

Isn't the real problem that we just don't like these people because they are willing to work for such little pay and we are affraid of our own employment future ?.

Wow! Now who's the one showing hate? I don't like them because they are committing a crime every day they are here. Because they have no respect for our laws.

Who said anything about mexicans ?. Oh excuse me so very kind Sir !. My mistake. It's just that since dustbunny felt compeled to offer an opinion on a thread which contained the following statement:{The recent murders of six Mexican workers in Georgia underline various social issues facing immigrants} that I assumed the post was directed toward Mexican.

See. There's your hate again. Dustbunny specifically used the word "illegal" without any other connotation and you assumed he was referring to mexicans.

YOU must really despise mexicans since you are the one that wants them " to work for such little pay" and assumes that anyone that is talking about illegals is referring to mexicans. My, my. The thought of mexicans must really get you "excited" shall we say?

54 posted on 10/22/2005 6:42:27 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: dennisw

Sounds like an ad campaign for not breaking the Law and sneaking across the border into the U.S.


55 posted on 10/22/2005 6:43:17 AM PDT by marty60
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To: dirtboy

Ah, so if stealing cars makes me happy, I should be allowed to do it, even though it is against the law


If these type of remarks are not of "vigilante origin". Then what origin, prey tell are they ? Please correct my use of the word.


56 posted on 10/22/2005 6:43:19 AM PDT by CheezyChesster
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To: CheezyChesster
Where exactly are all these registration centers you refer to ? that all these Millions of people have used.

It's called applying to immigrate here. My ex-wife's family did just that and came here legally in the early seventies.

Gawd, why don't you educate yourself on the issue before commenting in such a blatantly ignorant manner?

57 posted on 10/22/2005 6:43:51 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: CheezyChesster
For me its the "culture" they bring with them. The method of delivering goods and services in Mexico depends on fraud, kickbacks, payoffs, etc. IMO, this "culture" is being transferred to the USA. Consider these trends:

The majority of LA does not speak English

Approx. 25% of our construction industry is comprised of illegal aliens

The major source of revenue for the Mexican government is fund transfers from the USA

The prison population is disproportionately illegal aliens

Hospitals are closing in the southwest be of "free" health care to illegals

Diseases such as TB are now back in the US.

Call me what you will, I firmley believe these trends are not beneficial to American society.

58 posted on 10/22/2005 6:44:59 AM PDT by Tripleplay
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To: CheezyChesster

It's kind of like sticking our heads in the sand isn't it ?, Isn't the real problem that we just don't like these people because they are willing to work for such little pay and we are affraid of our own employment future ?. What is it exactly about these people that is so different from the other populace of this country ? Why so much Hate for these folks? Ok, the general discussion here is that they are illegals. As I have posted earlier in post 19, registration wouldn't be any harder than it was on Ellis Island around the turn of the century. What confounds me is what the profound excuse is for all the hate.


No hate, just basic economics... and a dividing line between honest businessmen / women and scumbag tax cheats.


59 posted on 10/22/2005 6:45:37 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: CheezyChesster
What is it exactly about these people that is so different from the other populace of this country ?

They are not here legally. Duh...

60 posted on 10/22/2005 6:46:35 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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