Waaahhhh comes to mind. That and the need for Americans to file suit against the ACLU.
"a boy just shy of 15 "
1. That's another way to say an adult had sex with a 14 year old. That deserves a long sentence.
2. The law should be blind to gender - child molestation is child molestation.
3. #2 does not apply to marriage which is a special case - the government has no business encouraging gay marriage... or encouraging gay anything.
17 years? Sorry, at the risk of attracting the mirth of everyone and sounding like a bleeding liberal.... that sounds harsh - even taliban like.
You wouldn't get 17 years for rape with violence or murder over here (you should but thats not the issue).
Flame away! /[Firepants on]
If the judge wants everything equal than the 18 year old should be tried for rape of a minor.
And he's complaining?
This just makes it worse..
The court is entirely right in this ruling. Of course those with an agenda will say the court was activist, must be impeached, the ACLU is to blame, special rights, homosexual agenda, blah, blah.
Equal protection under law either means something or it means nothing. Now, where are the hypocrites here who scream about "hate crime" statutes and yet would support this law targeting homosexuals?
An 18 year old man having consensual oral sex with a 14 year old boy *is* different from an 18 year old man having consensual oral sex with a 14 year old girl.
Peer interactions are going to be changed by the first and not by the second. The latter is more likely to be socially acceptable than the former. And the future actions of adolescent males are more likely to be influenced in their later choices by sexual experiences at this age than girls are.
Heterosexual experiences are less likely to be associated with other risk factors than same sex experiences.
1: Am J Public Health. 2001 Jun;91(6):903-6.
Same-sex romantic attraction and experiences of violence in adolescence. Russell ST, Franz BT, Driscoll AK.
Department of Human and Community Development, University of California, 1 Shields Ave, Davis, CA 95616-8523, USA.
OBJECTIVES: Recent national attention to hate crimes committed against lesbian, gay, and bisexual youths has highlighted the need to understand this group's experiences of violence. Using nationally representative data, we examine the associations between romantic attraction and experiences of violence, as well as the risk of witnessing violence and perpetrating violence against others.
METHODS: Data from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health were examined. Youths reporting same-sex and both-sex romantic attractions were compared with those reporting other-sex attractions. Survey logistic regression
was used to control for sample design effects.
RESULTS: Youths who report same-sex or both-sex romantic attraction are more likely to experience extreme forms of violence than youths who report other-sex attraction. Youths reporting same-sex and both-sex romantic attractions are also more likely to witness violence. The higher incidence of violence perpetrated by youths attracted to the same sex is explained by their experiences of violence.
CONCLUSIONS: These findings provide strong evidence that youths reporting same-sex or both-sex romantic attraction are at greater risk for experiencing, witnessing, and
perpetrating violence.
PMID: 11392932 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
3: Am J Public Health. 1998 Feb;88(2):262-6.
Correlates of same-sex sexual behavior in a random sample of Massachusetts high school students. Faulkner AH, Cranston K.
Massachusetts Department of Education AIDS/HIV Program, Malden, USA.
OBJECTIVES: This study documented risk behaviors among homosexually and bisexually experienced adolescents.
METHODS: Data were obtained from a random sample of high school students in Massachusetts. Violence, substance use, and suicide behaviors were compared between students with same-sex experience and those reporting only heterosexual contact. Differences in prevalence and standard errors of the differences were calculated.
RESULTS: Students reporting same-sex contact were more likely to report fighting and victimization, frequent
use of alcohol, other drug use, and recent suicidal behaviors.
CONCLUSIONS: Students with same-sex experience may be at elevated risk of injury, disease, and death resulting from violence, substance abuse, and suicidal behaviors.
PMID: 9491018 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
OK, make the penalty for underage sex of any type, heterosexual or homosexual, 18 years and the case is closed. But the court was right on this one.
In other words he had sex with a 14 year old.
--- A lower court had ruled that the state could justify the harsher punishment as a way of protecting children's traditional development, fighting disease or strengthening traditional values. But the Supreme Court said the law was too broad to meet those goals. ---
So, is that what supreme courts are for? To determine whether a low is broad or narrow enough to meet an objective????
For some reason, I thought their job was strictly to determine if it was legal or illegal. From the first sentence above, it seems like they are saying it is legal, but too broad.
---- "The statute inflicts immediate, continuing and real injuries that outrun and belie any legitimate justification that may be claimed for it," ----
Injuries?
What about a young man who is proceeding through the difficult portion of adolescence that we all do, and perhaps wondering why this gay guy is hitting on him? Is there something about him that draws the attention? Maybe he is gay??? That boy was steered into a life that is not going to be easy to change. If a girl had hit on him, he would have entered a life of heterosexual sex early. But having a homo hit on him drew him into the homosexual life which is a dead end and destructive. He suffered a potential lifetime of injuries from being statutorily homosexually raped.
---- Justice Marla Luckert wrote for the court. "Moral disapproval of a group cannot be a legitimate state interest." ----
Not moral disapproval of a group... moral disapproval with an action!!! Statutory, homosexual rape. That is a reprehensible and permanently damaging action.
IOW, as we say in normal English, a fourteen-year old boy.
If Matthew R. Limon had been a public school teacher he could have taken administrative leave with pay for a few months and then moved on with his life.
If they are teenagers having sex, isn't that considered rape as they are under the legal age of 18?
Matthew R. Limon had just turned 18 when he had consensual oral sex with a boy just shy of 15 14 year old boy at a Kansas school in 2000.
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The penalties should be equal for hetero and homo sexual liasons between adults and minors.
Crooked democrats once again victorious in their support of NAMBLA access to young boys.
there was a time, not that long ago, Kansas was a proud state