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Democrats Must Be Delighted…
Irish Pennants ^ | October 21, 2005 | Jack Kelly

Posted on 10/21/2005 12:29:34 PM PDT by quidnunc

Democrats must be delighted with the early Christmas present they've been given. And the Harriet Miers nomination is a gift that keeps on giving. We conservatives are in a bus, heading for a cliff. Nobody seems to be steering, and most want to tromp down on the gas pedal.

Conservatives have engaged in lemming-like behavior before. The last time was the impeachment of President Clinton. He did perjure himself before a grand jury, which presidents ought not to do. But even if the half-eaten remains of small children had been found in the Oval office, the Senate would never have voted to convict Clinton, so his impeachment was an exercise in futility. A very unpopular exercise in futility, one which cost the GOP seats in the House and Senate in the 1998 congressional elections.

Every development in the Miers saga has been depressing.

Like just about everyone, I was disappointed that the president didn't nominate someone with stronger legal credentials and a more clear conservative record.

But I've been more appalled by the vicious, childish reaction to the nomination by many conservatives. I am not pro-Miers. I don't know enough about the woman to have a firm opinion. But I am, in Hugh Hewitt's formulation, anti-anti-Miers. Neither Bush nor Miers deserve absolute trust. A Supreme Court nomination is far too important for that. But on judicial nominations, Bush has earned, and Miers deserves, the benefit of the doubt until she's had the opportunity to speak for herself.

Instead, we've had a churlish, childish display which demonstrates why conservatives are not in the majority, and why we soon will be a smaller minority.

Much of the criticism of Bush by anti-Miers conservatives has been based on the supposition that a candidate they (and I) would have preferred, such as Janice Rogers Brown or Michael Luttig, could be confirmed by the Senate. But this probably isn't so. There are enough votes for confirmation, but not enough to break a Democratic filibuster, nor may there be enough to trigger the "nuclear option." We seem to be one, more likely two votes short.

Those few anti-Miers conservatives who recognize this reality tend to blame Bush for it. After all, he could have supported solid conservative Pat Toomey over squish Arlen Specter in the 2004 Pennsylvania senate primary. These political geniuses fail to recognize that had Toomey won the primary, the Democratic candidate almost certainly would have won the general election.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: miers
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1 posted on 10/21/2005 12:29:35 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
bush jumped the shark with this nomination. It needs to be corrected Toot Sweet. time for her to demurely step aside.
2 posted on 10/21/2005 12:33:20 PM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" R. A. Heinlein)
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To: quidnunc

We conservatives are in a bus, heading for a cliff. Nobody seems to be steering, and most want to tromp down on the gas pedal.
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If we don't get some real serious CONSERVATIVE LEADERSHIP soon, we will be in deep excrement....the entire country will.


3 posted on 10/21/2005 12:33:38 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: quidnunc
We conservatives are in a bus, heading for a cliff. Nobody seems to be steering, and most want to tromp down on the gas pedal.

I am also against the Bush bashing from some in the anti-Miers camp but the above statement is a great over exxageration, knee jerk reaction, and delusional. The vast majority of conservatives who are opposing Miers still greatly support the President on the vast majority of issues, and they will all remain very much energetic to vote Republican in the next elections.

4 posted on 10/21/2005 12:35:58 PM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: quidnunc
Unsatisfied with shrinking the party by tossing out the "RINOs," some anti-Miers conservatives have been savage in their criticism of those of us who've been willing to give the lady a chance. The next time an anti-Miers conservative refers to us as "those who've drunk the Kool Aid," as Manuel Miranda and a number of commentators on this blog have done, I want to bang their heads on a concrete wall until all the **** they've been using for brains oozes out.

To be fair, he slices and dices both the antis and the White House (and Miers) here, but that paragraph is choice.

5 posted on 10/21/2005 12:38:42 PM PDT by RichInOC (Stupidity is its own punishment...but not as often as it should be.)
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But I've been more appalled by the vicious, childish reaction to the nomination by many conservatives.

Actually, there are some conservative pundits, and their followers that have "jumped the shark".

6 posted on 10/21/2005 12:41:30 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: quidnunc
Conservatives have engaged in lemming-like behavior before. The last time was the impeachment of President Clinton. He did perjure himself before a grand jury…

So this guy thinks the Clinton impeachment was the result of lemming-like behavior, even though a felony was committed.

Obviously a subscriber to the vile “go along to get along” philosophy that is one of the very worst aspects of American politics.

I’m glad this author and I are in disagreement.

7 posted on 10/21/2005 12:41:52 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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I must be insane thinking that allowing Miers to be formally rejected by the Rats is not a bad thing.

Maybe, just maybe it will light a fire under the butts of our spineless majority.


8 posted on 10/21/2005 12:43:00 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (The Price of Freedom is Written on the Wall.)
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To: quidnunc
It's depressing to see the conservatives and the Republican party self-destruct over this.

It's almost as painful as watching Clinton get elected.

9 posted on 10/21/2005 12:43:00 PM PDT by Schnucki
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To: quidnunc

"Instead, we've had a churlish, childish display which demonstrates why conservatives are not in the majority, and why we soon will be a smaller minority."


EXACTLY!


10 posted on 10/21/2005 12:44:47 PM PDT by DrDeb
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To: jveritas
I strongly suspect that the conservative anti-meirs movement has also been infiltrated by DU Trolls.

Regardless, torpedoing this nomination will not leave the President in any kind of position to successfully nominate a more conservative justice. A Conservative, if they even dared to put themselves their friends and family through this national torture, would be greeted by jeers from the dems, and cries of "DOA" by The Gang.
11 posted on 10/21/2005 12:47:33 PM PDT by Wiseghy (Discontent is the want of self-reliance: it is infirmity of will. – Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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Miers' only crime seems to have been thinking the President is one of the great leaders in American life, and not being reticent in expressing that sentiment -- an experience most mainstream media journalists have never experienced being said to/about them, and thus cynically concluding, she only said it trying to advance her own career ambitions -- as they would. Maybe she's not like them but is instead sincere and genuine -- something these columnists could never dare to imagine.

What is disturbing is this knee-jerk rush to prejudice fomented by the demagogues of every stripe. Prejudice is prejudice, no matter what noble calling one claims it serves.


12 posted on 10/21/2005 1:00:45 PM PDT by MikeHu
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To: Wiseghy
It is very simple my fellow freeper: Just let us give this woman a chance to speak. If she fail in the hearings and the nomination then let them vote her out. Let the Constitution process take it natural course.

I suspect that few days before the hearing start the liberals are going to go crazy about the Miers nomination and here stand against abortion. This will have many of the anti-Miers camp in the conservative side refrain from furhter attacks on her and rather attack the liberals.

PS: Liberals will go even more ferocious against Miers if Rove is not indicted in this CIA leak non story.

13 posted on 10/21/2005 1:04:07 PM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: Wiseghy
I strongly suspect that the conservative anti-meirs movement has also been infiltrated by DU Trolls.

How very odd... many people were thinking that the conservative pro-miers movement was DU plants :-)

14 posted on 10/21/2005 1:07:01 PM PDT by dfrussell
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To: MikeHu
Prejudice is prejudice, no matter what noble calling one claims it serves.

"Prejudice" would be supporting her, since it's an irrational, unsubstantiated view based mostly upon her sex... that and her being Bush's gofer is the reason she received the nod.

15 posted on 10/21/2005 1:10:09 PM PDT by dfrussell
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To: quidnunc

I agree....
Specter might as well be with the Demflakes...he
acts like one -90% of the time. Pennsylvania is
a blue state...he caters to the masses...and his
stance on abortion certainly isn't a trait of the
Pennsylvnia dutch...I have been one of Prsident Bush's
staunch supporters but maybe the liberals are getting
to me...i have been wavering since the Brown (FEMA)
thing and being a bloodthirsty pol..I was hoping for
the Brown gal..and let the liberals trash her as they
have been doing to Condi Rice?? still they(Dems) vote for
the likes of Nagin (New Orleans) ...yuck...Jake


16 posted on 10/21/2005 1:14:50 PM PDT by sanjacjake
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To: quidnunc
I'll agree that the nonsense spouted by both sides has been disgusting.


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17 posted on 10/21/2005 1:15:43 PM PDT by rdb3 (Have you ever stopped to think, but forgot to start again?)
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I'm surprised small children's remains weren't found,
since all we heard was "It's for the children."


18 posted on 10/21/2005 1:18:13 PM PDT by From One - Many (Able Danger - No Intelligence Failure - Media Lied Again)
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To: quidnunc

The problem I have is that trust me and it helps Bush are not enough for me to support her. I need to see a verifiable history of conservatism in elected or appointed offic ebefore I can support someone to this critical a post.


19 posted on 10/21/2005 1:22:09 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (The GOP needs to be made to toe the conservative line, not the other way around.)
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To: rdb3; dfrussell

That's what the mass media is still all about -- the control of the mass mind. Nothing makes them happier than everybody at each other's throats, questioning each other's motives, dividing us into one more factionalism, second-guessing our duly-elected representatives and undermining their every effort.

Surely these columnists must have something else to do besides telling the President how to be the president -- and justifying that usurpation of power by inviting everybody else to join in also. Resist the temptation to express an opinion just because one can -- based upon opinions based upon opinions based upon opinions...


20 posted on 10/21/2005 1:26:54 PM PDT by MikeHu
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