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To: Ichneumon

More people believe in God than evolution so you are still on the losing end. And I am confident that some day there will be proof (more than we have now) that humans were created separately from other animals. Until that time we will all just have to keep arguing I guess.


252 posted on 10/21/2005 3:24:48 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852
More people believe in God than evolution so you are still on the losing end.

Luckily, science isn't a popularity contest.

256 posted on 10/21/2005 4:04:12 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: mlc9852; Wormwood; narby; dmz; PatrickHenry; Dimensio; Coyoteman
More people believe in God than evolution so you are still on the losing end.

Wow! You started out claiming "irrefutable proof" for God, then when asked for that proof you retreated to saying that's how you "interpret" the evidence, and then when it's pointed out that "interpretation" is a far distant thing from "proof", or even validated interpretations, you retreat even further to "more people believe one than the other, nyah nyah".

Cling to that if it brings you some comfort. But if you really want to pin your hopes on the notion that truth is determined by some sort of popularity contest, you probably don't want to think too hard about the fact that evolution is believed by more people than the specific type of God-belief known as Christianity.

And I am confident that some day there will be proof (more than we have now) that humans were created separately from other animals.

You are free to believe that someday your beliefs will actually be supportable, if you wish.

Meanwhile, we'll continue to believe what the vast amount of evidence actually already shows, because we're more interested in seeking out what is actually true, instead of what we'd wish to be true. Accepting the results of reality-checks against the real-world evidence is the best known way to do that.

Which position is more intellectually honest, would you say?

Until that time we will all just have to keep arguing I guess.

Or perhaps you'll get around to following the evidence where it actually leads for a change, instead of where you wished it did, or hope it might someday. Or perhaps you won't.

260 posted on 10/21/2005 4:33:30 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Certified pedantic coxcomb)
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To: mlc9852
I am confident that some day there will be proof

I feel compelled to reply to this comment but, I can't think of anything appropriate.

267 posted on 10/21/2005 4:49:00 PM PDT by shuckmaster (Bring back SeaLion and ModernMan!)
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To: mlc9852
More people believe in God than evolution

If you include the Muslims.

268 posted on 10/21/2005 4:49:01 PM PDT by WildTurkey (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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To: mlc9852

But there are so many who believe in God and yet still believe in evolution...you seem to want to believe that just because someone believes in God, he will not believe in evolution...you may want to believe it, but that will never make it true...people do believe in God and evolution at the same time, and see no conflict...you obviously do see a conflict...however, you cannot speak for others who do believe in God...right here on FR, there are those who say they believe in God and evolution at the same time...and thats just on FR...in the world at large, there are many, many more...

You seem to insinuate that since there are more who believe in God, than believe in evolution, that somehow evolution will eventually 'lose', some battle...I think you will be disappointed...


271 posted on 10/21/2005 4:53:38 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: mlc9852; Ichneumon
Ichneumon has given you serious reasons to doubt your faith. You will no doubt ignore him, but what happens when this evolution conversation reaches a bright Christian in college and their faith is challenged in the same way? My bet is they will likely reject their faith entirely.

This is why the evolution fight is stupid for Christians to pursue. All it can do is tear the best and brightest away from the church and alienate the rest into a persecution complex cult.

The Discovery Institute is doing professional atheists a huge favor.

276 posted on 10/21/2005 5:05:50 PM PDT by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: mlc9852
More people believe in God than evolution

Yeah, but a lot (maybe most) of 'em are the same people.

332 posted on 10/21/2005 6:46:27 PM PDT by Stultis
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