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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

With all do respect, have the crackpots at the Discovery Institute ever shown PHYSICAL and RATIONAL evidence for the existence of a "Creator" via the scientific method?


25 posted on 10/21/2005 10:49:16 AM PDT by Clemenza (Gentlemen, Behold!)
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To: Clemenza
Name-calling again. I always expect it from liberals and Darwinists.
29 posted on 10/21/2005 10:51:55 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Clemenza
With all do respect, have the crackpots at the Discovery Institute ever shown PHYSICAL and RATIONAL evidence for the existence of a "Creator" via the scientific method?

First, it's politically incorrect to use the term "creator". From now on the anti-science charlatans expect you to use the correct term "designer". To answer your question: No. Showing physical and rational evidence is not part of the Discovery Institute's agenda to dumb down science in our schools.

35 posted on 10/21/2005 11:07:07 AM PDT by shuckmaster (Bring back SeaLion and ModernMan!)
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To: Clemenza
Silly, the "Creator" is not revealed through the application of the scientific method but through belief. These "intellectuals" wish to place themselves above their creator.

A little something on the Friedrich Nietzsche God is dead quote:

Have you not heard of that madman who lit a lantern in the bright morning hours, ran to the market-place, and cried incessantly: "I am looking for God! I am looking for God!"
As many of those who did not believe in God were standing together there, he excited considerable laughter. Have you lost him, then? said one. Did he lose his way like a child? said another. Or is he hiding? Is he afraid of us? Has he gone on a voyage? or emigrated? Thus they shouted and laughed. The madman sprang into their midst and pierced them with his glances.

"Where has God gone?" he cried. "I shall tell you. We have killed him - you and I. ....

"What Nietzsche is concerned at in relating is that God is dead in the hearts of modern men - killed by rationalism and science. This same God however, before becoming dead in men's hearts and minds, had provided the foundation of a "Christian-moral" defining and uniting approach to life as a shared cultural set of belief fully within which people had lived their lives. Nietzsche suggests that the acceptance of the Death of God will also involve the ending of accepted standards of morality and of purpose. Without the former and accepted faith based standards society is threatened by a nihilistic situation where peoples lives are not particularly constrained by considerations of morality or particularly guided by any faith related sense of purpose."

So is God dead at Cornell?

38 posted on 10/21/2005 11:15:15 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother ( We need a few more Marines like Lt. Gen. James Mattis)
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