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Vitale Suspect Described as 'Goth' Loner
CNN ^ | October 21, 2005

Posted on 10/21/2005 7:34:48 AM PDT by smartin

MARTINEZ, California (CNN) -- The teenage suspect in the beating death of a prominent lawyer's wife was described by classmates as a "gothic" loner who followed the occult and dressed in black from the polish on his fingernails to his trench coat.

The young man is being held as a juvenile in the slaying of Pamela Vitale, wife of lawyer and television pundit Daniel Horowitz. Police say he apparently acted alone.

Horowitz found Vitale's body when he returned to a trailer the couple shared while they built a dream estate on a hilltop in affluent Lafayette, east of Oakland.

Authorities said Vitale, 52, was bludgeoned by a strip of crown molding and fought with her killer. (See video about the arrest -- 4:35)

A gothic cross was carved into her back. That symbol may be a key link to the suspect.

"He was just really a gothic kid, and everyone knew who he was just because of his apparel. When you heard the name, you were just like, 'Oh, that kid,' " a classmate told CNN.

"He just definitely stood out in front of anybody in the school," the classmate added. "When he walked by, everybody talked about him -- like, he definitely didn't blend in."

Authorities would not identify the 16-year-old, and CNN is not naming him because of his age. But news outlets in the San Francisco Bay area widely publicized his name after his arrest late Wednesday.

Former classmates told The Associated Press that the teenager drew a pentagram on the ground at school, telling other students he was reading from the book of Satan.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: danielhorowitz; dyleski; goth; horowitz; pamelavitale; susanpolk; vitale
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To: add925

>>Does everyone think this way in Calleeforneeyuh?

I know I do. I always try to make sure my socks match my pants, though this morning I threw caution to the wind and wore dark socks with tan dress pants.

I'm bucking societal convention and throwing it right back in the face of "the man"--consequently I am basking in my unorthodox creativity.

:P


161 posted on 10/21/2005 11:13:25 AM PDT by Betis70 (Every generation needs a new revolution)
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To: absolootezer0

Sorry don't know about him/her yet, but give us time. :-)


162 posted on 10/21/2005 11:15:38 AM PDT by smartin (The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.)
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To: cgk

My husband is an alum as well...haven't seen aby toad turning yet though.


163 posted on 10/21/2005 11:15:50 AM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: sissyjane

Big time wacko


164 posted on 10/21/2005 11:16:52 AM PDT by smartin (The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.)
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To: Betis70
I'm bucking societal convention and throwing it right back in the face of "the man"--

I love it! I stuck it to "The Man" today by wearing one brown and one black sock!!!!

Er, ah, perhaps it wasn't intentional....
;)
165 posted on 10/21/2005 11:24:27 AM PDT by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: add925

Bad lighting perhaps?


166 posted on 10/21/2005 11:26:14 AM PDT by smartin (The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.)
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To: smartin

Sounds more like bad laundry to me ;)


167 posted on 10/21/2005 11:29:30 AM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: najida

Ha!


168 posted on 10/21/2005 11:31:37 AM PDT by smartin (The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.)
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To: add925; najida; smartin

My choice was because Saturday is laundry day (impossible to get a washer/dryer at the apt complex on Sunday).


169 posted on 10/21/2005 11:32:13 AM PDT by Betis70 (Every generation needs a new revolution)
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To: Betis70

I guessed right!

Do I get a prize??? :)


170 posted on 10/21/2005 11:33:24 AM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: najida
Here's a prize
171 posted on 10/21/2005 11:37:18 AM PDT by smartin (The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.)
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To: BurbankKarl
He talks about looking unique. But from what I've read so far, he just imitated the appearance of a groups known as Goths.
172 posted on 10/21/2005 11:41:30 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: All

His residence:

Dyleski's house sits above Hunsaker Canyon Road with a large pile of clothes heaped on the porch. In the yard, two goats were leashed to a pole next to chickens in a coop. Baseballs, bicycles and an old sink were scattered around.


173 posted on 10/21/2005 11:46:47 AM PDT by smartin (The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.)
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To: republicofdavis

I finally found it!

Wilma Holgerson of Lafayette was a friend of the Dyleski family and called the teen's mother "one of the sweetest, caring and loving women you could ever meet."

"She was the kind of single mom you take your hat off to, when you see someone who does everything you should do to raise a kid," Holgerson said.


174 posted on 10/21/2005 11:53:40 AM PDT by smartin (The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.)
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To: All

More on this guy:

Whatever his personality, students said Dyleski wasn't known for trouble. The only incident anyone could recall occurred when a 6th grader commented on Dyleski's appearance. He reportedly punched the boy in the face. School officials reacted by banning trench coats, but Dyleski kept wearing black every day.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/10/21/DYLESKI.TMP


175 posted on 10/21/2005 11:55:01 AM PDT by smartin (The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.)
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To: Betis70
My choice was because Saturday is laundry day (impossible to get a washer/dryer at the apt complex on Sunday).

There were 3 possibilities for my black and brown sock, "stick it to the man" day:

a) Low light
b) Poor color vision
c) I'm a guy and WTF cares? Its Friday!
d) All of the above

Answer: d) ;)

Have a good weekend FReepers, and remember, never trust anyone that has no sense of humor.

176 posted on 10/21/2005 11:55:54 AM PDT by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: add925

Or who doesn't wear jeans! ;-)


177 posted on 10/21/2005 11:57:09 AM PDT by smartin (The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.)
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To: republicofdavis
Don't make me turn you into a toad.

ROFL!!

...very local to this story...

178 posted on 10/21/2005 11:59:00 AM PDT by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: Moderate right-winger
but if the woman was not a proven feminist, then she deserves justice

Excuse me?! Does your moderation not include a pro-life stance? Life isn't precious because of one's beliefs ... it's precious because it is life.

What a disgusting proposition you've put forth.

179 posted on 10/21/2005 12:02:52 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: bootless

Get 'em!


180 posted on 10/21/2005 12:05:19 PM PDT by smartin (The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.)
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