A Conservative House, Divided Against Itself, Cannot Stand

GOP USA ^ | 10-21-05 | Frank Salvato

[colorcountry]

Um, excuse me, but have you checked your link or read post #39? Just wanted to set the record straight.

[rob777]

While many waste no time pointing out that President Bush hasn't once used his veto power where government spending is concerned, it should also be noted that he isn't the one proposing legislation to pay for the building of bridges that go to uninhabited islands in Alaska.




He was the one who proposed a MAJOR new entitlement program in the prescription drug program, which will do much more long term damage to the cause of limited government conservatism than the above mention pork. He also proposed expansion in the funding of the Dept. of Ed. and insisted that the GOP rid its Platform calling for that Dept.'s elimination. He was the one who ran as a "Compassionate Conservative" as a way to redefine conservatism so as to exclude a commitment to limited government. The President has a HUGE influence over the party's overall direction and Bush has used that influence to steer the party away from the limited government conservatism of Reagan and the Contract With America.








To lay the blame of excessive government spending solely at the feet of George W. Bush is not only disingenuous, it again gives Congress a free pass on the role they play in the problem that is out-of-control government spending.



I know of no conservative critics who are giving Congress a free pass on spending. To lay the blame SOLELY on Congress is also disingenuous and gives the President a free pass on the role he played.

[OldFriend]

Care to show me your badge number?

[OldFriend]

I choose to be part of the group that prays for and supports our President. Not part of the group that wishes him ill for not fulfilling their image of perfection.

[smoothsailing]

It's the same with me.

[Prime Choice]

My point, which you so painfully missed, is that you were the one who started the Bush/Clinton comparisons, not me. When you stated in your previous message (and I quote): "I can't believe these morally superior righter-than-me's think I am sickening - They compare the atrocities of the Clinton White House to our President." you insinuated that I was the one who started the comparison.

Again...it was you.

You really should see a doctor about that memory loss of yours.

[Prime Choice]

Care to show me your badge number?

Sure. It's 8675309.

(I figure having that song play in your head for the rest of the day should be punishment enough for that silly question.)

[hosepipe]

[ Which would mean All Hail Hillery the Lizard Queen! Good night and good luck indeed. ]

You're just full of good news ain't ya.. Hope we're BOTH WRONG..

[OldFriend]

Dan Rather providing proof of your thread police status?

[colorcountry]

Actually.....I was contrasting the Bush Administration with the personal responsibilty of Clinton.

You are the one who compared.

[redgolum]

It is Friday, and I tend to stir up the pot.

But I hope I am wrong also.

[CitizenUSA]

OldFriend wrote: "I choose to be part of the group that prays for and supports our President."

Thanks for reminding me to pray more often for President Bush, too. More than anything, I hope God's will is done. Again, thank you.

"Not part of the group that wishes him ill for not fulfilling their image of perfection."

The second part of your statement is insulting. Just because we (conservatives) disagree with the president doesn't mean we wish him ill! Also, you imply our standards are unreasonable and/or irrational because we expect "perfection." Conservatives do NOT expect perfection. In fact, conservatism is based on a realistic assessment of mankind's shortcomings. All we wish is for the Republican establishment, including the president, to remember they are the party of limited government.

Frankly, I have no problem with the president acting like a big government spender. However, that's not how he sold himself to his base, and he wasn't elected by the Democrats. We have the reasonable right to expect him to support the platform of the party that elected him.

[OldFriend]

When I saw the outpouring of love and support from the people in Houston towards the Katrina refugees was the first time I fully understood what compassionate conservative really means.

It means not crying for smaller government when disaster strikes our fellow citizens.

It means not demanding smaller government while the poorest children get an inferior education because there is no accountability.

Yes, those things cost money, but there's a value to be unheld and I believe in those values.

President Bush did not ask for 9/11, the hurricanes, nor the ugly evil hate rhetoric directed at him daily from the left.

That we should join those hatemongers and attack this man under the present circumstances is inexcusable to me.

[Prime Choice]

Dan Rather providing proof of your thread police status?

Hillary Clinton providing you talking points?