Posted on 10/20/2005 8:12:04 PM PDT by STARWISE
Joseph Wilson and his wife, Valerie Plame are preparing to file a civil suit against Bush administration officials.
Plame was the covert CIA agent allegedly unmasked by the White House. Now she is preparing to file a civil lawsuit against the Bush administration officials who may have disclosed her identity and scuttled her career, Salon.com reported Thursday.
"There is no question that her privacy has been invaded. She was almost by definition the ultimate private person," said the couple's attorney, Christopher Wolf.
Wolf said the couple would make a final decision on filing a lawsuit after special prosecutor Patick Fitzgerald has completed his investigation, Salon said.
If they do sue, Wilson and Plame could be the first litigants to depose senior White House officials since Paula Jones, an employee of the state of Arkansas, sued President Bill Clinton.
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I think it was at Bolton's hearing...
whole idea is to tie up this administration for the next 3 years
You put it in a nutshall. Only we can't let them
get any further with their lies.
I for one, would be interested to see how she handles being questioned about her affair with a married man and how she told him she was a covert agent on their third date while in bed.
Her "good name" indeed.
How about her bouts with depression? Her forced vacation?
But don't worry. She will just bluster about this for the publicity and then quietly never sue. Or withdraw it before it ever gets to discovery.
Just getting into Wilson's sources of income: the Saudis, etc., would be enough to guarantee this suit will never see the light of day.
Yeah, Valerie is such a private person. LOL.
Jacqueline, (his second wife), was a French diplomat and may have provided the connections for Wilson to see the forged documents that were supplied by the French through the Italians. In other words it is possible that Wilson knew that the docs were forged because he was privy to the information that French wanted to discredit the British info on Saddam shopping for yellowcake and that Wilson's objective was the same. The French just happen to manage the yellowcake production in Niger.
IOW, he didn't lie...he saw them.
And Fedora has contributed this:
French intelligence soon began a campaign to discredit the US case for war against Iraq. In 1999, French intelligence had begun investigating the security of uranium supplies in Niger, where uranium production was controlled by a consortium led by the French mining company COGEMA, a division of the French state-owned nuclear energy firm AREVA. At that time, Italian businessman Rocco Martino provided French intelligence with genuine documents revealing that Iraq was planning to expand trade with Niger. French intelligence took an interest in the documents and asked Martino to provide more information. In 2000 he used a contact in the Nigerian embassy in Rome to provide French intelligence with documents purporting that Iraq had purchased uranium from Niger. These documents were later exposed as forgeries;
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Since it is now also known that French intelligence was trying to push Martino’s forgeries on US and British intelligence, as simultaneously the Democratic National Committee was planning to discredit President Bush’s Iraq policy by accusing his administration of manufacturing evidence against Hussein’s regime, heightened suspicion is cast on Wilson’s use of the Niger investigation to discredit the Bush administration’s case for war.
What Wilson Didn’t Say About Africa
I also notice last night on Tucker Carlson, that some rabid Dem mentioned that Fitzgerald had spoken with the Italian authorities about the Jan 2001 break-in at the Niger Embassy:
On January 2nd, 2001, police discover that the Nigerien Embassy [in Rome] has been broken into and documents and files were stolen. Italian investigators now believe that the breakin is related to the Niger forgeries.
Elisabetta Burba, a journalist for Panorama, receives a telephone call from Rocco Martoni telling her about the Niger documents, offering to sell them to here for ten thousand dollars. She meets with him and he gives her photocopies. She asks how they could be authenticated and he shows her a photocopy of the codebook from the Niger Embassy.
Italian authorities believe the codebook was obtained in the breakin of the Niger Embassy in 2001.
Daily Kos {Ugh}, while trying to blame Ledeen
This would also explain the multitude of stories that these forgeries were done by rogue CIA agents:
Shortly after the “surprise” Tenet-Pavitt resignations, current and former senior members of the U.S. intelligence community and the Justice Department told journalist Wayne Madsen, a former Naval intelligence officer, that they were directly connected to the criminal investigation of a 2003 White House leak that openly exposed Valerie Plame as an undercover CIA officer.
Seymour Hersh dropped a major bombshell that went virtually unnoticed, 54 paragraphs deep into an October 27, 2003 story for the New Yorker titled “The Stovepipe.”
“Who produced the fake Niger papers? There is nothing approaching a consensus on this question within the intelligence community. There has been published speculation about the intelligence services of several different countries. One theory, favored by some journalists in Rome, is that [the Italian intelligence service] Sismi produced the false documents and passed them to Panorama for publication.Source“Another explanation was provided by a former senior C.I.A. officer. He had begun talking to me about the Niger papers in March, when I first wrote about the forgery, and said, 'Somebody deliberately let something false get in there.'
He became more forthcoming in subsequent months, eventually saying that a small group of disgruntled retired C.I.A. clandestine operators had banded together in the late summer of last year and drafted the fraudulent documents themselves.”
If Joe diGenova is right, and I suspect he is, the federal investigation into the disclosure of the identity of covert CIA operative Valerie Plame should never have happened.
“My views are stronger than ever,” the former U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia said Monday when asked about the white-hot controversy that has sent a New York Times reporter to jail, changed the rules of investigative journalism and now threatens to envelop the White House in a major crisis. “This investigation never should have started because it’s apparent that no crime was ever committed.” “The only way an investigation can begin is if the agency swears — swears — that it took every conceivable step to protect this person’s identity.”
For example, the CIA had to answer 11 specific questions about what steps it took to protect the identity of a covert agent. But diGenova questions whether some of the information the CIA provided the Justice Department on those 11 questions “was materially false.”
In addition, he pointed out that the CIA paid for Wilson’s trip, didn’t ask him to sign a confidentiality agreement, didn’t object to his writing the op-ed article in the Times and allowed him to conduct TV interviews and to appear in a photo with his wife in Vanity Fair, he noted.
“The CIA isn’t stupid,” he said. “They wanted this story out. I’m raising the question: Did the CIA mislead Fitzgerald?”
The farcical Plame/Wilson assault on Karl Rove is a shot across the bow of the White House. The spook bureaucracy is fighting for its perks, hand-in-hand with the Democrats and the media. This is exactly the same iron triangle that destroyed Richard Nixon. [My comment: Hence all the sudden media hype about Watergate]
Valerie Plame's CIA bosses took care not to ask Mr. Wilson to sign a confidentiality agreement, routine in such cases, almost as if they wanted him to make a public fuss. They were not surprised, one might think, when Mr. Wilson promptly took his story to New York Times Op-Ed Editor Gail Collins, one of the great Bush-haters of all time.
The farcical "outing" of Valerie Plame therefore raises a genuinely frightening monster from the swamp: A subversive alliance between the intelligence bureaucracy, the Democratic Party and the media. The common thread among all the characters in this low-brow comedy is hatred of President Bush and American power. Joe Wilson's eyebrows go ballistic when he talks about the White House. Just watch him sometime.
It was a publicity stunt from the get-go. Wilson's "confidential trip" to Niger gave him the superficial credentials to publish his "expose" in the Times. He'd gone there, talked to the top officials face to face, and by gum, they told him it was all a lie! Not even Gail Collins could possibly believe this banana sauce, but Wilson's charges provided a useful stick with which to beat the White House.
Another explanation was provided by a former senior C.I.A. officer. He had begun talking to me about the Niger papers in March, when I first wrote about the forgery, and said, “Somebody deliberately let something false get in there.” He became more forthcoming in subsequent months, eventually saying that a small group of disgruntled retired C.I.A. clandestine operators had banded together in the late summer of last year and drafted the fraudulent documents themselves.
“The agency guys were so pissed at Cheney,” the former officer said. “They said, ‘O.K, we’re going to put the bite on these guys.’ ” My source said that he was first told of the fabrication late last year, at one of the many holiday gatherings in the Washington area of past and present C.I.A. officials. “Everyone was bragging about it—‘Here’s what we did. It was cool, cool, cool.’ ” These retirees, he said, had superb contacts among current officers in the agency and were informed in detail of the sismi intelligence.
“They thought that, with this crowd, it was the only way to go—to nail these guys who were not practicing good tradecraft and vetting intelligence,” my source said. “They thought it’d be bought at lower levels—a big bluff.” The thinking, he said, was that the documents would be endorsed by Iraq hawks at the top of the Bush Administration, who would be unable to resist flaunting them at a press conference or an interagency government meeting. They would then look foolish when intelligence officials pointed out that they were obvious fakes. But the tactic backfired, he said, when the papers won widespread acceptance within the Administration. “It got out of control.”
Like all large institutions, C.I.A. headquarters, in Langley, Virginia, is full of water-cooler gossip, and a retired clandestine officer told me this summer that the story about a former operations officer faking the documents is making the rounds. “What’s telling,” he added, “is that the story, whether it’s true or not, is believed”—an extraordinary commentary on the level of mistrust, bitterness, and demoralization within the C.I.A. under the Bush Administration. (William Harlow, the C.I.A. spokesman, said that the agency had no more evidence that former members of the C.I.A. had forged the documents “than we have that they were forged by Mr. Hersh.”)
The F.B.I. has been investigating the forgery at the request of the Senate Intelligence Committee. A senior F.B.I. official told me that the possibility that the documents were falsified by someone inside the American intelligence community had not been ruled out. “This story could go several directions,” he said. “We haven’t gotten anything solid, and we’ve looked.” He said that the F.B.I. agents assigned to the case are putting a great deal of effort into the investigation. But “somebody’s hiding something, and they’re hiding it pretty well.”
Hmm, but if he lied, how does it affect the problem related to the outing his wife?
There's a little thing called the first amendment that allows unfettered political speech. Since the President is a public figure for a slander suit to be successful against him, the declarant must act with a reckless disregard for the truth. See the Supreme Court case of New York Times v. Sullivan.
I hope Fitzgerald's tentacles have been prowling the bowels of the CIA and all the agency cubicles where these tired and bitter old hands are probably rubbing their hands in glee at their despotic handiwork. I hope he's picked up the whiff of their public humiliation and CYA over 911 and brings out the big guns. They oughta be hung in the public square if they're implicated in any such sedition... in a TIME OF WAR.
So, did Tenet and McLaughlin resign or were they asked to leave? It'll probably be 40 years before all the truth of this filth is ever revealed.
There's no doubt we have probably thousands of determined and dedicated intelligence professionals, thank God; but I would bet there's nothing so deadly as a group of tenured complacent, gossipy, clock-punching, incompetent .. and maybe a bit partisan ... analysts who's collective negligence resulted in the most horrendous attack in this country's history.
Kinda tells you something about the man. Use'm and lose'm.
He should be suing the Dems. After all, that's where all his monies have come from and who he "Pays". P.S. He gave $2000 to Hillary and Kerry. Strange!!
I don't see that happening.... he's now earned his Dim stripes, will be a tool for them for 2008 (SOROS), and he's got the movie deal in the works.
They (the dems) have been saying that for a couple of weeks. I think is was Ron Emanuel that was on MTP a couple of Sundays ago and he said that phrase about 23 times in the 5 minutes he was on with Timmy.
Shall we guess who their lawyer might be?
Richard ben Vineste?
Good guess. Other possibilities: Robert Bennett (though he's fairly busy w Judy Miller right now), Vernon Jordan, and/or David Kendall (though he has his hands fairly full w Hitelery's case right now).
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42. H.R.4110 : To require grants to State and local governments for infrastructure and social services needs in the same amount as the amount of relief and reconstruction funds provided to Iraq.
Sponsor: Rep Emanuel, Rahm [IL-5] (introduced 10/20/2005)
Cosponsors (31) Committees: House Government Reform
Latest Major Action: 10/20/2005 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Government Reform.
Sounds like a distinction created by government rule. LOL
So, what the media is hyperventilating about is a situation in which no crime was committed, but Fitzgerald may indict someone for committing perjury or some such thing during the grand jury hearings. That's how I understand it. It would seem that perjury or obstruction of justice would be a trumped-up charge since they pertain to an investigation of a situation in which no crime was committed.
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He lied.
She was exposed.
Two separate events, each with their own legal consequences. But I'd have to say that the one led inevitably to the other.
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