Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

MK: Get ready for Ortho-fascism [Israeli Claims Religious Jews are the Enemy]
YNet News ^ | Oct. 20, 2005 | Attila Somfalvi

Posted on 10/20/2005 11:54:52 AM PDT by Alouette

Knesset Member Ronny Brison warns of nationalist-religious attempted coup

A short time after the withdrawal from Gaza, quiet reigned over the country, and the voices of opponents to the disengagement have been silenced. They have disappeared from the television screens, pushed to the margins of the news, to the last pages of the newspapers. Their words and calls have been changed with fresher, more updated news.

But Knesset Member Ronny Brison (Shinui), who was once religious, says that the calm is elusive, and that describes religious-nationalist public as "Ortho-fascists," warning that they intend on trying to take over the state.

"I'm not optimistic about this quiet after the disengagement," said Brison, who has spend years tracking and analyzing the national-religious public. "The truth is that I extremely worried, because this is a bogus quiet. It's very cozy for us to look on the surface and see that is all calm, but we have no idea what forces are operating underneath the surface. I'm pessimistic because the sector knows how to educate and mobilize its youth, so at the end what you get is active and prolonged activity. I see it happening, and it worries me."

'Very worried'

"I'm very worried about the powerful energies that have been released during the disengagement. These forces, together with the Zionist-nationalist-religious ideology, create a real potential risk to the future of Israel as a democratic and liberal state."

"If there's someone who really wants to impose a Halacha (Jewish religious law), fundamentalist based state on us, it's not the Haridim (ultra-Orthodox), but the national-religious camp. The Ultra-Orthodox want an udder for themselves only. The national religious, who I describe as Ortho-fascist nationalism, wants the entire cow."

"There is world view which is only on fascist in that it places the state as a supreme and independent world view, but it also grants the state a holy transcendental status and connects it directly to God. It also happens here, in Israel. The most fitting description for that ideology is Ortho-fascism. It's a combination of Orthodoxy, together with a view that sees the state as a separate and special entity. These things to together with us, and we get something exceptional in its extremism. It creates an extremist religious model which is not at all willing to accept the possibility that this state won't be run according to the Torah of Israel. Therefore, after the crisis of the public, which was born after the disengagement, we could be heading to that direction. We can now see how these forces are getting organized ahead of this struggle," said Brison.

Taking over?

Brison actually warns of an ideological takeover of pure fascism over the national-religious camp.

"From what I have seen recently, these energies which were released with the disengagement will be directed at trying to takeover every sector possible in the state and the judicial system, from the army, to the High Court, from the Knesset to government offices. Their basic view today is that whoever failed in the settlements did so because he didn't settle the hearts properly. In other words, these energies will be exploited to turn the state from a democratic-pluralist state to a Halacha-based fundamentalist state, a place where God won't have to be ashamed to have his throne touch the ground."

"After all, today the state is flawed from their perspective: There is the nation of Israel, the Land of Israel, but the Torah of Israel is lacking. And in order to change the situation, they will first start using democratic ways."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fascists; shinui
And in order to change the situation, they will first start using democratic ways

So this is a "demographic" problem, is it?

1 posted on 10/20/2005 11:54:57 AM PDT by Alouette
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; A Jovial Cad; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; adam_az; af_vet_rr; agrace; ahayes; ...
FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

2 posted on 10/20/2005 11:55:29 AM PDT by Alouette (Islam gives terrorism a bad name.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Alouette
"The truth is that I extremely worried, because this is a bogus quiet. It's very cozy for us to look on the surface and see that is all calm, but we have no idea what forces are operating underneath the surface."

That "force" is HaShem and his hashgachah (providence).

"There is world view which is only on fascist in that it places the state as a supreme and independent world view, but it also grants the state a holy transcendental status and connects it directly to God.

Baseball been bery, bery good to me.

3 posted on 10/20/2005 12:03:06 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Bayom hahu' yihyeh HaShem 'echad ushemo 'echad.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Alouette

"Ortho-fascism"

Is that killing innocent civilians with your dental braces?

Or am I thinking of someone else.


4 posted on 10/20/2005 12:13:30 PM PDT by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Alouette
He sure likes the words fascism and extremism. Makes you wonder if he could make his point without those words.
5 posted on 10/20/2005 12:41:18 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people. Ps. 14:34)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Alouette

>>>But Knesset Member Ronny Brison (Shinui), who was once religious, says that the calm is elusive, and that describes religious-nationalist public as "Ortho-fascists," warning that they intend on trying to take over the state.<<<

Which, translated, means he is a card-carrying liberal.


6 posted on 10/20/2005 12:50:50 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." -- James 4:7)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Let's see now. This @$$hat claims that the religious Jews will use "democratic ways" which means they will vote for candidates who will implement policies they prefer.

So this guy is suggesting that the religious public should be disenfranchised and deprived of the right to vote? Initiating fascism to prevent fascism? Yeah, that's the ticket.

What a putz.


7 posted on 10/20/2005 12:54:59 PM PDT by Alouette (Islam gives terrorism a bad name.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Alouette
So this guy is suggesting that the religious public should be disenfranchised and deprived of the right to vote? Initiating fascism to prevent fascism? Yeah, that's the ticket.

That seems to sum up the liberal mentality.

8 posted on 10/20/2005 2:39:12 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Bayom hahu' yihyeh HaShem 'echad ushemo 'echad.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Alouette

Yeah, whatever. Ortho-fascism in Israel,the Christian Reich in Canada and the unstoppable Evangelical Juggernaut in America. It seems the good guys just can't catch a break...


9 posted on 10/20/2005 6:36:31 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Alouette

This man is insane.


10 posted on 10/20/2005 8:15:39 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sageb1
The Shinui party is one of the biggest threats to Israeli society and Judiasm today. The party was created purely on the basis to fight "ultra-orthodox coercion." They are a left-wing, hateful, bunch of anti-semites that is against anything Jewish whatsoever.

due to the climate in Israel during the last elections--they were able to garner up 15 seats in the Knesset. The next election, they'll for sure be below 10 and probably around 5.
11 posted on 10/20/2005 9:31:51 PM PDT by Jaysin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson