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To: traviskicks
You are apparently not aware of America's legal foundation in judeo-christian principles. How do you explain that from the very beginning of this nation's foundation that there has been a paid pastor presiding over the Congress? Or how about In God We Trust on our money? I can go on but I hope you see that your argument holds no weight. It wasnt just any god that the founders built there principles on (like many liberals and atheists will argue) it was the God from the Holy Bible - the God of Jews and Christians. This is historical fact. These same founders would not have agreed that porn entitled "Sex with young girls or Raping women" was free speech. Both may employ adults but they give the impression of a criminal act and fail to meet the standards of decency.

What should the legal age be to be considered an adult? Why not 17 or 15 or how about 12? The reason is because as a SOCIETY we have deemed that 18 is the proper age. This is as much a moral and value assessment as any other. It could be lowered and if it was lowered to lets say 12 (hypothetically) would you say that its ok to allow 12 year olds to be in these films? Of course you wouldnt because it is not moral and against the overall good of our society.
The constitution does not provide the right to all things indecent based on free speech.

If you said that you would consider a 12 year old and adult then I know you have no sense of moral aptitude and I wont waste my time any further.
44 posted on 10/20/2005 3:04:33 PM PDT by sasafras ("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom.)
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To: sasafras

"You are apparently not aware of America's legal foundation in judeo-christian principles."

No? Here is something I wrote on it:
http://www.neoperspectives.com/foundingoftheunitedstates.htm

"These same founders would not have agreed that porn entitled "Sex with young girls or Raping women" was free speech."

You don't know that.

"Both may employ adults but they give the impression of a criminal act and fail to meet the standards of decency."

Just about any movie contains actors performing criminal acts, shootings, robberies, murders etc... Why not let individuals choose what is 'decent' and what is not? I don't want someone telling me what I can or cannot watch something and I don't think you would either.

"What should the legal age be to be considered an adult?"

I agree that this is a moral judgement society makes, so we are in agreement here. But the fact is whatever it is we as a society determine to be the legal age, we are assuming that at this age people are adults and are mature enough to give informed consent and engage in contracts with others. So, if society determined that 12 was the minimum age that a person was rational enough to make decisions, then they are entitled to life, LIBERTY and pursuit of happiness as they define it, which includes acting in such movies. But this approach is not relevent, especially becasue no sane person would agree that a 12 year old is of the right age. If society considered a 5 year old capable of driving a car then, yea, he/she could legally drive a car. But it is ridiculous to assume society would ever assume this.



49 posted on 10/20/2005 4:07:49 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/secondaryproblemsofsocialism.htm)
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