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To: MarMema; jb6; GarySpFc

I don't want to get into a long debate defending Steyn's statistics, mostly because I have no clue where he got them, but MarMema's link provides life expectancy information (67 years) that is according to the US Census Bureau. Obviously, the US census bureau doesn't collect this information themselves and the link doesn't offer the actual source. UK Media indicates that the UN thinks Russian Men's life expectancy to be 61 years. The Russian Health Minister said in 2000, "Experts say drug abuse and sexually-transmitted diseases are potent new factors in declining male life expectancy, which has plunged from 64 years in the 1980's to less than 59 years today." Meanwhile, the Rand corporation said in 1997, "The Russian fertility rate has declined to among the world's lowest, while its abortion rate is the highest." That assertion is backed by facts and figures (http://www.rand.org/publications/MR/MR1273)

I don't see anything among the short searching I have done that fundamentally undercuts Steyn's thesis.


85 posted on 10/20/2005 11:20:53 AM PDT by NCSteve
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To: NCSteve
I don't want to get into a long debate defending Steyn's statistics, mostly because I have no clue where he got them, but MarMema's link provides life expectancy information (67 years) that is according to the US Census Bureau.

You have old, old data from the 1990's, which is way out of date and wrong. See my post #82.
89 posted on 10/20/2005 12:02:14 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: NCSteve

That was 2000 and that was the low point. Think about it this way too: if you improve the infancy mortality rate, your life expectancy shoots up: 1 child dies at 0 age, 2 men die at 100: life expectancy? 67.


101 posted on 10/20/2005 4:43:18 PM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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Russian population shrinks to 143 million
159 posted on 10/22/2005 3:20:50 PM PDT by lizol
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