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Fighting has no place in amateur hockey.

Speaking as an amateur hockey referee, coach, and parent, the conduct of this coach is ridiculous and should not be tolerated.

This guy should not be in charge of any team. This is not what the game is about

1 posted on 10/19/2005 10:17:59 PM PDT by RWR8189
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2 posted on 10/19/2005 10:20:06 PM PDT by RWR8189 (George Allen 2008)
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He called it "orchestrated brutality."

Um... this is hockey, not golf, we're talking about?

3 posted on 10/19/2005 10:27:31 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("Stare decisis" means every bad decision a court ever made is perpetually binding)
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Another article on the same story:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1505713/posts


4 posted on 10/19/2005 10:35:09 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment of YOUTH hockey but the pros should be allowed to mix it up. Not allowing them to fight almost always leads to stickwork or other nasty behavior.


5 posted on 10/19/2005 10:37:17 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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"They must learn how to protect themselves. It's a way to get the kids to the next level."

The "next level". The next circle of Hell?

How low are we going to go?

6 posted on 10/19/2005 10:37:49 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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The only time there should be fighting in hockey practice is if fighting is in the league rules - and then it should be practiced by the appropiate players. I don't think most coaches want the Yzermans on the team fighting and off the ice for five minutes. They send the McCartys out there to fight, to protect the Yzermans.

The question I have here is whether it is the Capital Center Pride LEAGUE or TEAM. The Capital Center Pride TEAM is in the NAHL, which is a junior hockey league(Junior A?). Eric Lindros used to play in it for Detroit Compuware before he went to the OHL, so this is a fairly bigtime league. There may be fighting allowed in it. It's considered amateur, but it's probably closer to semi-pro.

Now if it's a local league with "no fighting" rules, that's another story.


7 posted on 10/19/2005 10:40:38 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("My Gov'nor don't got the answer")
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How about the kids standby while the parents brutalize each other.


13 posted on 10/19/2005 11:27:28 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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Give the coach the heave-ho. Why do hockey player drop their protective gear when they fight? Seems like it would make more sense to leave the padding on.
14 posted on 10/20/2005 12:36:31 AM PDT by carumba
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Went to a fight the other evening and a hockey game broke out.


16 posted on 10/20/2005 4:21:32 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Rome had it's gladiators, we have hockey. This kind of love for violence is the sign of a sick society in danger of collapse.


18 posted on 10/20/2005 5:36:41 AM PDT by Grig
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ITA, it makes me physically ill. My 14 year old son plays bantam travel hockey. he is team capt and has a couple of thugs on his team, that he is trying to rein in, as it hurts the entire team. The coach is benching the kids that get misconduct penalties. this past weekend, the worst offender was told by the coach not to show up for sunday's game. the refs in this league are adopting zero tolerance for it, and i am all for that.


19 posted on 10/20/2005 5:40:18 AM PDT by xsmommy
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I don't want to get into the whole "fighting in hockey" debate, but I'll agree that a youth hockey coach who orchestrates fights in practice has no place behind the bench


22 posted on 10/20/2005 5:49:14 AM PDT by Skip Ripley
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As a former player myself and currently a youth hockey coach I agree with you. However, I do disagree on one point: not only should the guy not be in charge of a team, he should not even be allowed in the building.
23 posted on 10/20/2005 5:51:52 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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Ned Braden: What are you doing?
Jeff Hanson: Puttin' on the foil!
Steve Hanson: Every game!
Jack Hanson: Want some?


25 posted on 10/20/2005 7:21:09 AM PDT by angryirish
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This guy should not be in charge of any team.

Maybe Shanny or Chelios should dance with this jerk at center ice so he can show what a tough guy he really is.

I'm sure that more than a few hockey people would pay to see that.

27 posted on 10/20/2005 7:27:37 AM PDT by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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Any coach who instructs a 17 year old to fight should not be a coach!


29 posted on 10/20/2005 7:39:46 AM PDT by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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"Ordered the kids to drop their gloves and helmets."One player suffered a concussion?I hope this "coach" has lots of liability insurance.


33 posted on 10/20/2005 7:51:25 AM PDT by Thombo2
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I'm a big proponent of fighting in hockey, it's a natural outcome of the intensity of the game and the only way to truly get rid of it is to drop the intensity and make the sport itself less interesting. That being said it has no place in youth hockey, and seriously has no place in practice especially not ordered by the coach, part of the idea of practice is developing team unity and having the team fight each other isn't generally good for team unity.


36 posted on 10/20/2005 8:03:34 AM PDT by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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Fighting has no place in amateur hockey.

They'll be doing it as soon as they get to college (if they go), which last I checked is still amateur.

I have no problem with a coach teaching kids the do's and don'ts of hockey fighting, as long as it's done appropriately. Think boxing, wrestling, kung fu. I don't think "okay, you two pair up and wail on each other" is a good way to go about it.

39 posted on 10/20/2005 8:27:32 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("She was appointed by a conservative. That ought to have been enough for us." -- NotBrilliant)
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Why didn't one of the parents beat the crap out of this coach?


44 posted on 10/20/2005 8:55:36 AM PDT by Kokojmudd (Trade the US Senate for the Iraqi Parliament!)
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