Posted on 10/19/2005 7:06:09 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
Interesting post!
So, the Russian politicians signalize that they are ready to sold out Serbia anytime if only the world would allow them to annex Abkhazia and South Ossetia. What a surprise! / sarcasm
Markov called for Georgia to become a federation, the Russian language to become an official language alongside Georgian, and Georgia's constitution to empower Russia as the guarantor of the rights of national minorities
LOL what a joke!! Georgia to Markov ==> "STFU"
It is possible that in long term Russia indeed will be the greatest beneficent but it has nothing to do with Putins primitive imperialist plans. Post-communist imperialists like Putin arent able to think like capitalists.
anti-Russian colour revolutions
This term is a joke, Kremlins propaganda. What those guys really afraid is to lose the power that they have in Russia.
Russias new strategy in the making is in a distorting echo of the guerrillas without guns model pioneered by youth movements in countries to its west and south based on exporting its own version of democracy and building pro-Russian constituencies in the post-Soviet societies.
exporting its own version of democracy means exporting pro-Kremlin dictators, nothing else.
In the Balkans, the ongoing separation of Kosovo from Serbia could serve as a precedent and model for conflict-resolution on Russia's terms, Pavlovsky claimed.
For me, and I know what Im talking about, that means:
"We will attack Georgia (Ukraine, Moldavia, or aother), post our troops as peacekeepers, make hell on the earth, and proclaim inipendence of ocupied teritories."
It means "If Kosovo get 'Indipendency" we will do the sam eto American-friendly ex-Soviet countries"
US must be very smart, not to think that Albanians are better allies nad Kosovo better allie than Georgia, Ukraine or Moldova.
Whatewer happens, Russia wins. If Kosovo stays in Serbia, Russia will claim that they mada that possible. If Kosovo is taken from Serbia, Govrement in Belgrade will fall, and extereme pro-Russian politicians will come to power, even invite Russian troops afering them bases in Serbia. THAT would be horrible defeat to USA nad NATO. Russian base on 20 minutes flight range to Aviano base?
Are you Hungarian (Lukazs)?
Whatewer happens, Russia wins.
Russia always losing with itself. The key to their victory as a nation, is far from Serbian borders.
THAT would be horrible defeat to USA nad NATO. Russian base on 20 minutes flight range to Aviano base?
Russian fighters and copters falling from the sky without enemy help, Russian subs become a joke, Russian army is unable to beat few dirty Chechens. Such a base would be indeed a catastrophe for NATO :-) Today Russian army is able eventually violate Estonian airspace, nothing more.
The leaders of Georgia's breakaway regions, Abkhazia and South Ossetia, are anxiously watching developments in Serbia's separatist region, Kosovo. The sudden interest stems from the UN Security Council's October 24 decision to start talks about the future status of Kosovo. If the international community recognizes Kosovo's independence in the near future, then it would create a precedent for recognition of self-proclaimed states.
Not surprisingly, various statements by foreign diplomats regarding the possible independence of Kosovo did not go unnoticed in Tbilisi. So far Georgian officials have not outwardly shown any anxiousness regarding the UN's changed attitude toward Kosovo, but the topic is hot news in Tbilisi and Moscow, as well as Sukhumi and Tskhinvali.
Georgian and Russian media are already speculating on possible developments in South Ossetia and Abkhazia in the event of UN recognition of Kosovo's independence. The headline "Awaiting Kosovo Precedent" introduced an article in 24 Saati that mentioned two resolutions in support of independence for Kosovo that several American congressmen submitted to the House of Representatives in December 2004 and January 2005.
Some Russian policymakers are already arguing that independence of Kosovo will allow Moscow to recognize the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. But while on a formal visit in the United States this month Georgian Prime Minister Zurab Nogaideli warned that if Moscow uses a "Kosovo precedent" against Georgia it might create problems for Russia....
The Kremlin seems to be in the process of institutionalizing a neo-Comintern of hard-core activists promoting Russia's geopolitical agenda, largely though not only through the manipulation of ethnic issues, now fashionably repackaged as "multiculturalism."
Before the USSR it was a czarist empire. It appears there is still a bear in the woods.
"Some Russian policymakers are already arguing that independence of Kosovo will allow Moscow to recognize the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia."
All quite interesting.
Moscow is in the process of reversing many aspects of the breakup of the Soviet Union and liberalization of Russia. The free press is gone. Electoral process apparently rigged. Legislature not a factor. Courts a tool of the administration.
Now they are partially reversing the breakup itself, subverting bordering nations to reassert a "semi-union".
In 1993, Golitsyn felt the breakup was a "fake". He overstated, but his insights are valid. The countries around Russia have been heavily seeded with Communist agents reporting to the KGB for decades, people now probably loyal to Putin and the FSB, for the most part. Communism is dead in Russia, but it's successor is not necessarily better for the US.
Thanks for ping. Interesting article, as well as the dialogs presented in these threads. I'll take a back seat and try to learn something.
Well Russia is running out of places to sell nuclear plants.
All the former-Soviets really want is a new Soviet Union. That is what Putin and gang really want.
Thanks to Tailgunner Joe for this thread.
Ping to read an up to date article with valuable comments.
worth repeating:
"All the former-Soviets really want is a new Soviet Union. That is what Putin and gang really want."
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