Posted on 10/19/2005 6:17:11 AM PDT by no dems
Really? These people were conservative?
It was masterful, but then Bush had to flush it down the toilet by making it Roberts-for-Rehnquist, at best a neutral move. The masterful move would have kept Robert-for-O'Conner, and then make the case for Brown-for-Rehnquist. Then you would still have Harriet if a liberal seat opened up or if the Dems were susessful in stopping Brown. That would have been the win-win-win play. The thing that makes me mad is how good this could have been. Bush underplayed his hand and caved when he did not have to. The way Bush played it, instead of a significant move to the right, it is a modest move to the right and he wasted his stealth candidates. He should have saved Harriat fo a more liberal seat. Of course that makes me a 'Bush-hater' for say that.
Some more than others.
Professor Glenn Loury was, at least for Harvard.
A less distinguished version of Shelby Steele, now he's simply another run-of-the-mill liberal hack toiling in academe.
So wanting to see Schumer and Biden get a smackdown on national TV is your reason for opposing Miers?
Sure, it would be fun to watch those two smirking apes get their butts handed to them on national TV. But it's more important to me to have a little known pro-life, pro-2nd Amendment SC Justice confirmed and on the bench for the upcoming term than to see a long fight in the Senate end with a well known conservative nominee being stalled by a filibuster and ultimately withdrawn.
I don't believe that enough RINOs would vote for the nuclear option to confirm a nominee who is well established as a hard right ultra conservative of the type most of us would prefer. The GOP doesn't control the Senate, a small group of RINOs who hold the power to deny Frist a majority have the power to hamstring the rest of the Republican Senators on any vote they choose to do so.
It will take a lot more time to establish a TRUE conservative majority in the Senate, if ever. As long as we have to depend on middle of the road states such as ME, RI, PA, OH, and a few others to achieve a nominal Republican Senate majority, the leadership doesn't have enough reliable votes to nuke a Democrat filibuster and force the confirmation of a nominee like Brown or Luttig. Anyone who thinks there are enough reliable conservative Senate votes to nuke a Doomocrat filibuster of a prominent hard right SC nominee is living in la-la land.
"... why, with everything else in the world going on, the Prez is making this so difficult for us with this nominee."
This is a really good question and one that the "Prez" is probably trying to figure out now as well.
Harry Reid is a Mormon. He was put into his position because of his "values" at a time the dems were struggling with the public perception that they had no values.
I assume he IS pro-life. That is the stance of the LDS Church.
Yes, because ...
I'm sure I'm missing a few.
Being from the dark side, I have a certain bias, but her Answers to the Senate questionnaire didn't give me the warm fuzzies. They gave me cold chills. But that's just me, "being extreme." YMMV.
Democrats have virtually all been Commies since FDR.
Roberts is still an unknown. HE doesn't have the "I wonder if he's smart" baggage that Harriet carries, but how closely he hews to tradictional judicial practice remains to be seen. He sent mixed signals, and may be middle of the road.
The hearings are designed to disclose as little as possible - if the outcome of that is not "middle of the road" (meaning acceptable to the DEMs), the confirmation becomes contentious, and that is exactly the outcome the players are striving to avoid.
I have no problem with holding off on the "withdraw her now" drum - I don't recall ever probing what the remedy to this mess ought to be. I lay that burden squarely at the feet of the President, and so far his reaction is not winning me over. It's pushing me away.
Funny, but I don't recall of you Miers supporters banging the drum for her confirmation three weeks ago.
And the GOP advocated and supported their election campaigns. The GOP can't on the one hand put in weak sisters, then complain it can't get the job done because of those same weak sisters.
Hey, GOP ... "Time's up."
They knew the SCOTUS was the brass ring, and the GOP decided to not grab for it this time around. I'm getting off the GOP merry go round.
It doesn't make you a Bush-hater in my book, but it does show your naivete in that you think a hard-right winger with a long paper trail of controversial opinions such as Brown would have been confirmed for the top position on the SC. As I said before, I don't believe Frist has enough reliable votes in his pocket to force cloture via the nuke option and thereby confirm a hard right nominee.
IMHO Roberts was the very best Bush could get confirmed for that position, and I am satisfied by his appointment. Not ecstatic, but well satisfied. Likewise, I also believe Miers will prove to be a satisfactory choice. Not the choice I would have preferred, but satisfactory.
It doesn't make you a Bush-hater in my book, but it does show your naivete in that you think a hard-right winger with a long paper trail of controversial opinions such as Brown would have been confirmed for the top position on the SC. As I said before, I don't believe Frist has enough reliable votes in his pocket to force cloture via the nuke option and thereby confirm a hard right nominee.
IMHO Roberts was the very best Bush could get confirmed for that position, and I am satisfied by his appointment. Not ecstatic, but well satisfied. Likewise, I also believe Miers will prove to be a satisfactory choice. Not the choice I would have preferred, but satisfactory.
Would you mind telling me what qualifies you do judge her, Shapka?
Would you mind telling me what qualifies you to judge her, Shapka?
Pardon the double post. I never claimed to be able to type.
Roberts proved himself a great intellect (if not a great conservative.) We still have a lot to learn about Miers. We should be able to somewhat ascertain her ability to facilitate negotiation and concession (which are supposedly her strong points.) If she IS on our side, this could be an extremely important asset to us, especially on a court that is just slightly leaning to the right....she might be able to push it over subtly, without the aggression that can be off-putting to the other side.
I know this is a weak argument when we were all hoping for the offensive attack of a Brown, Jones or Luttig, but, anyone who has studied war (or sports) undertands the strategy of a clever defense.
You're obviously not familiar with politics in the south. Everyone in my family was a registered Democrat until the Vietnam war protests made it clear where the Democrat party was headed.
If you were not registered Democrat back then in the south you didn't have any voice in local or state politics because all elections were decided in the Democrat primaries. After the GOP grew strong enough in FL to have a chance to elect governors, state reps, and state Senators I switched my registration to Repub. My parents could never muster up enough disgust with the Dems to officially join the "damnyankee" party, but they consistently voted Republican after the Jimmah Cahttuh fiasco.
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