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What is the Difference Between Conservatives and White Nationalists?
October 19, 2005 | ComtedeMaistre

Posted on 10/19/2005 6:05:00 AM PDT by ComtedeMaistre

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To: ComtedeMaistre
As I understand it, White Nationalists understand race as a genetic, inborn trait, who like the Left have little appreciation for traditional cultural or religious aspects.

As well, White nationalists misrepresent the past. It was not Whiteness that makes Europa and her descendants worthy of loyalty, but the cultural habits of Christendom that laid the groundwork. Indeed, the rise of Nationalism coincided with the decline of Christendom, so I'm tempted to dismiss the WNs as slightly-behind-the-times modernists.

Of course most people outside of the American South didn't much think of themselves as White, but as descendants of a particular European people. Right now I'm reading an enormously influential popular history written in 1921 called "The Story of the Irish Race," so race itself was often thought of in ethnic terms as well.

The Leftist blindspot when it comes to religion and ethnicity is often hilarious, such as when criticism of Mohammedan pig-dog nutjobs is dismissed as racism, when it's good old anti-religious polemic or, in the case of the Greeks for instance, anti-colonialism. I imagine there are equally laughable racialists thinking of Islam in similar terms. I, for one, would be much more confident in the future of Europe if she were being populated by devout Arab Christians instead of Muslims.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are some genetic predispositions among the contemporary so-called races that would have some socio-cultural impact, but I don't think it's terribly significant to dwell upon them even if such differences are found, and found to have negative impact in some cases.

81 posted on 10/19/2005 6:44:06 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (Be not Afraid. "Perfect love drives out fear.")
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

No!


82 posted on 01/19/2006 4:06:16 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Exactly. Conservatism has absolutely nothing to do with skin color. As a matter of fact, one cannot be racist and conservative. The two are not compatible.


83 posted on 01/19/2006 4:07:13 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Final Authority

Nation of Islam, aka Black Muslims are black nationalists.


84 posted on 01/19/2006 4:10:25 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

I would rather have dinner with Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams than any white members of the Democratic Party


85 posted on 01/19/2006 4:12:10 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
"What is the Difference Between Conservatives and White Nationalists?"

Prof. Walter Williams could not be reached for comment

86 posted on 01/19/2006 4:18:40 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

The premise of the article is so flawed that it doesn't deserve comment.


87 posted on 01/19/2006 4:23:33 PM PST by oneofmany (ACLU -- Destroying America since 1920)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

You just bought the hook. A racist makes a stupid charge. Now you want us to enter the "I'm not a racist" defensathon. No way.


88 posted on 01/19/2006 4:25:56 PM PST by Luke21 (Political correctness is the insane religion that runs this country.)
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To: Wallace T.

Good points and well said.


89 posted on 01/19/2006 4:28:54 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: avg_freeper
I'm a Fuchsia Nationalist.

Pinko.

90 posted on 01/19/2006 4:29:59 PM PST by LexBaird ("I'm not questioning your patriotism, I'm answering your treason."--JennysCool)
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To: tiki; ComtedeMaistre
What does skin color have to do with ideas and beliefs?

Everything...if you're a liberal.

All blacks, yellows, reds and greens, plus the good whites, are liberals.

Only the baaaddddd whites are conservatives (along with a few crazy blacks and browns).

The entire premise of the poster's question is absurd.

91 posted on 01/19/2006 5:17:15 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Melas
Elucidate, if you please.
92 posted on 01/19/2006 9:49:21 PM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Eschew obfuscation, ya'll.)
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To: Melas
You may consider them nationalists but of what? What are their interests? Are they the interests of the US Constitution? Do they act in our interests? Or, even presume to act for us, assuming you are of the mainstream culture.

Just because you are able to call an orange an apple doesn't make that orange an apple.
93 posted on 01/20/2006 7:55:39 AM PST by Final Authority
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To: ComtedeMaistre

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the term white nationalist is used to denigrate conservatives....it is used by the left and PC-Cons...to basically attack any white rightist who defends THEIR own culture from attack....any white southerner on this forum who has any stones at all will end up by default being labeled a white nationalist...at best.


94 posted on 01/20/2006 7:59:47 AM PST by wardaddy (Alito is Clapton)
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To: okie01
Everything...if you're a liberal.

there are PC conservatives as well for whom being "non-white" is everything.

95 posted on 01/20/2006 8:14:01 AM PST by wardaddy (Alito is Clapton)
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To: Final Authority
Are they the interests of the US Constitution? Do they act in our interests? Or, even presume to act for us, assuming you are of the mainstream culture.

I don't even remotely understand why you are asking these questions. Of course THEY (Nation of Islam) aren't acting in OUR (Americans) interest. The Nation of Islam is at best a racist organization that serves to divide and works against the interests of all Americans. At worst, it's a terrorist organization prepared to harm American citizens.

96 posted on 01/20/2006 8:59:07 AM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Melas

If you can't understand the questions then why did you offer such a lame observation to begin with? Or, were you just bored and made some attempt to show that you had some thought process going on?


97 posted on 01/20/2006 11:43:36 AM PST by Final Authority
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Perhaps the good professor should ask some of the many Black, Hispanic and Asian conservatives that question.


98 posted on 01/20/2006 11:45:51 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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